@box said: Have you by any chance altered the default icon size in your windows settings. i don't think so. Can i decrease it? @aerilius said: Screenshot? V8 [image: http://abload.de/img/v89pjhk.png] V2014 [image: http://abload.de/img/v201457kzv.png] And btw. WHY does the Photomatch window has to be wider now than before and than the other windows?!? I really doesn't make any sense to me... no new info or buttons - just more space on the left side. If you dock it the other windows will also get wider... @aerilius said: I believe the incentive for the 4px margin introduced in 2013 was to have a cleaner workspace and better distinguishable buttons. I believe it was referred to scientific studies. For me it is the opposite... Less icons possible and even more space needed.

It seems simple to me. Don't try to sample the material through the section plane. It's simple enough to turn off the section plane so it isn't in the way. You can't sample a material through other planes in SketchUp either. This doesn't seem like a bug to me.

Thanks again pbacot!

@keithwins said: .... Is this common? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with turning section planes or cuts visibility on or off. When they're broken, I can move them and they act just like Section Cuts vis is off. I have had this happen...though I thought it was related to putting the section plane(s) on a layer. They will no longer cut....no matter what you try....ative/inactive...put back on default layer. "It" hasn't happened to me in a while, and so I never did figure out why. Can you post a file with a broken section plane? (maybe Trimble would like to see it) Best, Charlie

Work Plane by TIG ?

OK, now I can change the settings for the grass, but I don't get any grass when I render the scene!? Hmmm, I still have some problems and I preciate some more help.

Win7 64bit: IE-11 Firefox-30 Chrome-37 All the same - show 31.

This one-liner, when run in the Ruby Console, assigns every entity inside every group/component definition to 'Layer0' - irrespective of the depth of the nesting - i.e. geometry, other instances/groups etc... m=Sketchup.active_model;m.start_operation('!');m.definitions.each{|d|next if d.image?;d.entities.each{|e|e.layer=nil}};m.commit_operation It is one step undo-able. Objects within the model.entities itself are not changed...

Sounds good, I will try it tomorrow when back at work. Thanks

Thanks Sketch3d, What if I copy my file to my private area directly?

And don't miss the last version of Joint PushPull interactive by Fredo 6, it's PushPull on steroïds!

Thanks

Douglas, I don't have an answer for you just letting you know your not alone. I've had the same issue with Curviloft & SU8. In my case I think it was operator error in selecting the various paths. To get my toolbars back I have to quit SU and start over. In watching the video tutorials again seems there is some logic in the order you select stuff. No problems after I started to pay better attention to what I'm doing. chuck.

That did it! Thanks a lot for the heads up. I didn't realise Sketchup had made a secondary folder elsewhere. Noted for next time! Cheers.

<facepalm> It works. Don't know why I never thought of that. Must be one of those days!! Thanks TIG

In the "real world" it is a matter of your understanding with whomever you are providing the designs to. I don't know that there is any generally accepted practice. I'm sure it depends on whether your client is adequately knowledgeable about SketchUp. It also depends on the form in which your user expects to receive the model. You may have to convert it to something else, such as stl, before you send it on. In that case is it your problem to decide how your objects were meant. Unless you annotate the model or provide separate documentation of your intent, someone using the model will have to provide their own interpretation. As noted, for some cases you can protect yourself by modeling at finer granularity (smaller Edges) than you know the user will require. Of course, this causes the model to have a very high Entity count. You are faced with a fundamental aspect of SketchUp's design: it might be termed WYSIAYG (what you see is all you've got). In some other applications, an object is defined in an abstract mathematical form (e.g. center location, normal vector, and radius for a 3D circle) and is converted to line segments when and as needed. For instance, when rendered to the display, a circle needs to be converted to a raster image with pixels appropriate to the resolution of the display. On a different display, a different raster representation will be generated. In SketchUp, there is no such higher-order abstract model. The Edges and Faces representing a shape are all there is. OK - picky point - a sequence of Edges can be joined together to form a polyline or polygon, but there is still no abstract model of the polygon as such. So, for a circle, a user needs to know how to find the center and measure from there to a vertex to discover the original as-drawn radius. If it really matters and they don't have the SketchUp expertise to do this, you will have to do it for them and annotate the model. This whole thing is a fundamental aspect of SketchUp's internal design, and part of how it obtains its much-treasured interactive user interface. Changing to the abstract-model-rendered-when-needed paradigm would be an end-to-end redesign of all the basic mechanisms of SketchUp. Steve

Oops somebody got to it while I was typing... Box is right though. Use the sketchucation plugin installer.

@ntxdave said: @tk0001 said: Dave, I think the technique I used here would work well for you, as long as the views are relatively close to the camera. The further you pull away, the more the dark edges jumble up the background "unhighlighted" information. The model I'm working on is of a facility that is rather large, so I want to try to dampen the background stuff as much as possible. What I really wanted to do was replicate the view SketchUp gives when you double click on a group, but with transparency in the surrounding information. I'm close. Hopefully I can get there. Yes, it probably would however, that means all of my groups would have to be duplicated plus there is the camera distance issue. The car wash runs anywhere from 135' to 155' long. Therefore, the lines could be an issue. My other point is that everything is centered around presenting in a paper driven environment (which I fully understand since a one of the primary uses is for the builders and etc.). However, today's environment also needs to be a little more multimedia focused as well. As you described about the monitor, we also present our proposed layouts from time to time with touch screen monitors. One of my dreams would be somewhat similar to what you were describing/wanting. It would be really neat if I could bring up one of my models/layouts, double click on a piece of equipment (component/group) and have it highlighted or the rest of the equipment hidden (like double-clicking on a group). I have looked at some presentation tools that support 3D models but they do not give me the capability to "cycle through" the various pieces of equipment in my model/layout. Guess I am just living in a dream world Wish I was a good enough coder to go off and develop something on my own. Good luck in your pursuit, Dave. Hopefully an adequate solution will be presented in this thread one of these days. FYI, to give you some perspective, if you refer to the "Highlighted" image above, the outside dimension of the blue highlighted equipment is about 300'.

Make hundreds if you wish.

Somewhere along the line you ought to be able to get someone to export so the dimensions are correct when imported into SketchUp. If not, can you get one of the other file types that SketchUp will import? Then you should be able to click on Options and set the correct units. It wouldn't hurt to see if you can get cleaner models to import, too.