good topic...good question....and simple straight forward replies in a language that us non geeky noobs can understand...!!

Yea, that's one of the first shortcuts I set up when I get a fresh SketchUp installation.

@ely862me said: But then I suppose you can't replicate the inner wall to match exactly with the outer wall, because the curve is different! So the only way is to use scale tool to match as much as you can . this is good enough for me. the more control over it the better but its what looks good - figure out how to make the bugger later!!! great c

Going to post this question here as it on the same subject. So 3d scanned a panel ready to unfold but currently the mesh is to complicated to unfold. Tried terrain reshaper but it does not seem to change. Trying to achieve a more consistent mesh which is not to time consuming to unfold. .skp is 8mb so put a share on dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/s/ur1su2eyv9eutyn/side%20panel.skp Multiple cookie or bottle of Scotch donation is someone can help!! [image: image showing mesh]

I know, it's rubbish. I always mean to but new job and personal stuff just gets in the way.

Thanks Kris.

Here's the SKP file, in case anyone wants to give it a shot. Guess I should have included it at the start. 1.skp

thomthom's "solid inspector" ruby is a great help in finding all those loose ends

Install "magicprefs" http://magicprefs.com/ I've never had a need for a three button mouse since I installed this. It's just magic..

This sounds like a feature I might want to add to [Re]Scene Plugin. Here is the link so you can check it out to see if next update includes this feature. http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=52203 Cheers!

I am running thre most recent beta releaase. and i know that it has not been fixed. it had kept crashing in my computer... lets see what happens in the newer release...

Funny method of erasing by hand!

Maybe you can use the geopositioning of SU and import the better mesh afterwards and use the google earth terrain as a reference for the positioning?

Well, last year John Bacus of (now already Trimble) said in his presentation at SketchUp BaseCamp in Boulder, Co. that the new SketchUp will be called "SketchUp 2013" so SketchUp 9 is unlikely to happen (and those screenshots seem to be a hoax too).

Well, let me know when you are around, and you'll get that beer. A promise is a promise (and, who knows, I might have more problems with SU by then)!

If the plugin is warning have not been removed I presume its because it still can cause some problems and maybe conflicts with other plugins so it is wise to follow the advice of not installing until it gets fixed. Most of the issues regarding plugins comes when modifying a global variable and not putting your code under unique module so that no other plugins gets affected. I am sure there is more reason though so if you are unsure of a plugin maybe ask in the developers forum if its safe. Also 'SketchUcation plugin store' is great place to find safe and up to date plugin and a very cool feature is to unload plugins you are not using and load them up when you do. Here is a link to that plugin.... http://sketchucation.com/resources/plugin-store-download Cheers!

Mine is not so bad on a Mac (using Simon's example). But how can we compare complexity of work? I can say that it is mostly use of plugins that can cause it and I know which ones seem to be doing heavy lifting and sometimes drop the ball so I save before these. But I can definitely get screwed sometimes. Don't get me wrong.

Well, I do not use Sensiva anymore. I replace it with Stroke-It and AutoHotkey I use a pen tablet to draw gesture holding both left and right button*. These are the gestures I use with SketchUp and AutoCAD : [image: skp.jpg][image: aCADabra.jpg] *And Here, the script for AutoHotkey : With AutoCAD and almost softs : ~RButton & LButton;; send {MButton down} Keywait LButton send {MButton up} return With Autocad and Sketchup (which uses right click differently with context menu): RButton & LButton;; send {MButton down} Keywait LButton send {MButton up} return RButton Up;; send {RButton} return It works fine ! Regards Stephane

That's another way of doing it. I'd not thought if that way. The outliner is a very useful tool in many situations.

@hellnbak said: .......... But, what I'm looking for is an explanation of why it happens, and how to make it not happen anymore. ...... Hi, attached file / model may somehow explain what is going on when creating similar weird faces. There are certain "conditions" that have to be met to create them. Don't ask me why SketchUp can't handle them. It probably has to do with the order of creating loops and the sequence of edges and their endpoints that confuses the program to decide which faces have to be created and where to split them. The model shows two situations that you better avoid when modelling. Although dragging endpoints accross an opposite edge isn't the most likely operation. Often "intersect faces with....." doesn't help. And you can keep on adding edges, only shifting the profiles to some other little face. Delete the corrupt part and/or re-create it with a workaround (like in the second scene) I hope this somehow helps in understanding when and why this issue occures. weird faces