Nobody knows what is planned for the next version. As with every other release, nothing is disclosed until the new version is released.

@sfto1 said: I moved the floor group away from the wall group by 1/16" and that solved it for the time being. I didn't think that two separately grouped items would have z fighting issues. Yes, Z fighting will occur regardless of layer/group/component. TIG has a plugin that creates a section cut "face". That is what I,and many others use create a plan like the one you show. sorry..don't have a link to TIG's plugin edit: http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=SectionCutFace C

@ddk said: trying to figure out how to add this rb file, its not showing up in the install list but is in my downloads .... I don't know code so im not changing it.. can anyone help with newb terms? :? there is no 'auto-instal' for any .rb files, only .rbz... notice the 'z', it's stands for 'zipped', so if you 'zip' any .rb then rename it's extension from .zip to .rbz, it will appear in the add extension list... john

Wow Thanks Box. I never knew about snipping tool. Great feature

Tig Once again, thanks for saving the day.. I was also thinking the accent had something to do with the problem & have created a user account called patrick and SU automatically created a plugins folder... C:\Documents and Settings\Patrick\Application Data\SketchUp\SketchUp 2014\SketchUp\Plugins I popped my plugins in there & zoom, all is well, no more ruby console messages on startup ! Makes me think the Trimble crew might like to take a closer look at their code... What would be best, is if there were a preference item where like in other cad programs the user can define the support file paths. In the office we put our plot config files for bricscad on the server and point all instances of brics/autocad to that. Anyhow, many thanks best, Patrick

@olishea said: My logitech rbq124 does this. I have to use the side scroll wheel. I've got used to it now, but it really annoyed me. Changed all the settings, set orbit to middle mouse button to no avail. I changed settings in both SU and mac system preferences but nothing worked. Orbit on that mouse works OK for me. If you are not too habituated to what you have now you could try once again... On the Scroll Wheel setup, choose one of the start modes of SmartShift other than 'shift manually between modes' as shift manually uses Scroll Wheel Button. Scroll Wheel Button arrows will no longer be greyed out and you can choose middle click. . [image: ocpr_018.png] [image: dsbH_019.png]

Thanks Rich, I have a friend who is learning revit. I'll send him the file and see if he could export to something usable. I'll post results here when I find out.

@rich o brien said: Before you Edit > Delete Guides copy or cut the Grid to your clipboard. Then Edit > Delete Guides followed by Paste in Place That works! Thanks

I am hoping that the LO team understands that ortho views do not always flatten. And when it comes to perspective views, well, good luck with dimensioning. There are others beside me that have expressed their frustrations. So instead of just bitching about it, I forwarded the idea of a tool that could create a true orthographic projection of a SU scene regardless of whether it was a SU ortho or perspective view. I do get the work-arounds and have used them, and they are useful for projects that are not susceptible to many changes. Those projects are few and far between for me. I am perplexed at the relative silence and acceptance of LO users who find the package adequate for preparing construction documents. Many have developed very creative solutions to deal with the shortcomings of LO dimensioning. That's great but not ideal. Please LO, be excellent, not adequate.

Working now. Thanks Rich!

If for some reason ctrl isn't making copies for you, could be a keyboard problem, drag them and build your custom toolbar. Then go to the toolbar dialog and use Reset on any toolbars missing tools and they will be replaced. Don't use Reset All as it will wipe your custom toolbar.

@unknownuser said: which is unsatisfactory agreed.

@sfto1 said: @bmike said: I render in vector, so the back edges don't show. I will test tomorrow, to make sure I remember the behavior correctly. I have in the past dimensioned with a style that had back edges on, then we t back to SketchUp before rendering and simply updated the scene with back edges off. IIRC it worked pretty well. Eureka!!! Thank you Mike, Krisidious, DaveR and Sonder for the time you took to point me towards a fix. In SU, I created a style with the back edges on. Then in LO, I applied that style to the viewport (from the "in model" styles tab in LO) and then rendered the view as Hybrid, and also as Vector. Both rendering options resulted in being able to snap to "endpoints" which was elusive any other way and the back edges did not render. This is still a work-around in my mind, but it is simpler than adding lines and tick marks on the model for LO to reference later. Please SU/LO team, fix or change dimensioning so orthographic views will behave like 2D. I think it is more how the surfaces and geometry in SU interact. If a line passes in front of another, they don't really cross, so generating that point requires a projection from the view you are in...

Hi Box, Here is what I did. I downloaded file and opened it. I had trouble as I first posted with the component having no component options. I received a comment that I should import it, not open it. So when I tried that, I deleted the component from the screen and imported the file. Yes indeed, I imported the component into itself. Arrgghhh!!!!! So, I am now understanding that DCs must be imported in order for component options to be activated. Is that correct? and thanks for the heads up regarding not pasting a component into itself.

@sfto1 said: I searched thru the site for any info on accurately placing section planes, as opposed to eyeballing them, and I cannot find anything. Does anyone know if this is possible? Another method, general approach, to see where you are going with the section plane.... as a group: You can draw on a section plane, so: create a section plane and make it inactive (double click on it) draw two intersecting finit construction lines on the section plane (or one edge) select both construction lines (or the edge) and the section plane > make group. this group has a convenient grip, the intersection (or two endpoints) and can be placed, rotated etc. to fit in the geometry at the correct location/orientation. Best to do so in X-Ray. Right click the group > Explode > double click the section plane to make it active.

I posted this on the LO wishlist thread also. As of today there are zero comments there. Most people assume as I did (and I think you guys did too) that an aligned view was ortho. It turns out it is not! This is something that limits workflow. The work arounds are only good for small models and begs the question for a 2d program, "Why would we have to do that in the first place?" Can you guys make some comments on the LO thread so we can get the attention of the SU Team and they can address this? Right now, assumption is getting in the way of improvement.

@unknownuser said: I would not want this to change, at least for my workflow. There are times when I want to see offset dimensions, especially when detailing in 3d. All of my plans & sections are generated through the section tool which by default creates a 2d plane that LO follows very well. If LO automatically flattened, it would eliminate the possibility of offset dimensions (which are accurate to their 3d arrangement) as shown in that link. Had those three rectangular cubes been dimensioned via use of the section tool, they would be accurate to their 2d displacement. Just my 2 selfish cents. Not sure how a custom aligned view would be detrimental. It would be user controlled. Use it if you want or ignore it if you wish. Just looking for an option that would work as ortho views are traditionally used, i.e.flattened. Using a section plane work around is clever, but it is still a work around for a "Layout" flaw IMO. Sketchup team should address this and fix it in such a way that "Layout" will treat any ortho view (standard or custom) as a flattened view with the 2d dimensioning accuracy that is reasonably expected. If offset dimensions are required, then a 3d view with dimensions could be used. Not ready or willing to suspend drafting convention, when the fix is possibly simple. Even if it is not simple,it is a task worth under taking in order to have LO become a seriously considered 2d presentation/construction documentation solution. BTW, Sonder your work is impressive.

Though this is an older post and I am wondering if a solution has been found. This is an issue for me also when creating architectural drawings that are geo-located, and wishing to dimension them in Layout, My current work around is the following workflow Geo-Location -> Add Location Measure angular offset (A) of a dominant axis of the building floorplan (as seen in the Google Earth Satelite Image) from the Sketchup default Y-Axis Make a copy of the Geo-Location Images, and rotate these by the negative angle from previous step (-A). These can now be used for tracing the floorplan etc Adjust Solar north by an angle of (-A) Now I can get orthographic dimensions in layout for the standard views ( but not for any aligned views unfortunately) Solar North will be correct, as will be Latitude and Longitude. Drawbacks are the hassle of this workaround and the fact that I am only to get orthographic dimensions from the standard 6 views, whereas elevations offset from these are quite common. See below for a simplified example showing the problem. The red box has been drawn with the axis at default orientation, the green box was drawn with axes rotated 30degrees from the standard axis orientation. The first view is a standard front view using parallel projection, and all orthographic dimensions are correct. The second view has been aligned to the green front face, and is also a parallel projection. This view also has Ortho activated in the model settings in layout. Note that the red box shows 3d dimensions and not orthographic [image: yB7i_ScreenShot2015-05-03at9.32.24am.png]