Adding Custom Aligned View to Standard Views
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I would like to see the addition of a custom aligned view option to the standard views fly-out. In addition to top, bottom, front, back, left, and right, there would be a custom aligned view. This custom view would behave like a typical orthographic view. In other words Layout would see this view as flat/2d.
This would solve a dimensioning issue in Layout whereby aligned surfaces which are not standard could be dimensioned similar to those in the standard views.
"Custom" aligned views presently are still interpreted as 3d models as opposed to 2d ortho projections in Layout. The custom views result in some really funky, inaccurate and unwanted dimensions.
Not sure if this is asking too much, but it would be really cool and helpful for presenting dimensions when needed on complex architectural elevations instead of distorted oblique views.
I'm not sure if this is a Layout or Sketchup issue, so I am going to post in both wishlists.
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I'm not in agreement that we need a "custom view", I believe the required view handling is already processed through Scenes in SU. What need resolving is LO's Ortho implementation.
Having checked this out for myself I was very suprised to find the LO "Ortho" button wasn't flattening the Scene if the view isn't aligned with the standard axis, so dimensions would report a 3D distance rather than the relevant plane view dimension.
This is a dangerous implementation of "Ortho" as it would not be unreasonable to assume dimensioning an aligned view was flat but find things had gone to manufacture with unidentified and significant errors in the drawing dimensions.
The only reliable workaround is to explode the view, but that destroys the link between the model and LO.
Fix needed urgently!
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If the ortho button in LO would flatten out "aligned" scenes, that would solve the issue. I only added the thought of a custom view option in the standard views, as I am unaware of how the flattening is achieved.
Can we get more to agree that this is something that either needs to be fixed or added immediately.
P.S.
Thanks ArCAD-UK for commenting on this thread.
To SU Team and Moderators,
Is this an issue that you might consider a bug?
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For anyone interested there is a graphical example here...
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=47493#p425008
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I came across this when i was working in layout a couple of weeks ago. I just ended up putting dimensions in the sketchup model and layering it properly. it would be handy to have it fixed though.
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I would not want this to change, at least for my workflow. There are times when I want to see offset dimensions, especially when detailing in 3d. All of my plans & sections are generated through the section tool which by default creates a 2d plane that LO follows very well. If LO automatically flattened, it would eliminate the possibility of offset dimensions (which are accurate to their 3d arrangement) as shown in that link. Had those three rectangular cubes been dimensioned via use of the section tool, they would be accurate to their 2d displacement.
Just my 2 selfish cents.
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It seems like the Bentley's 2D/3D Button would be good for all of us.
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@beginner said:
It seems like the Bentley's 2D/3D Button would be good for all of us.
Actually, I want a right foot pedal switch, that speeds things up.
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Hi Sonder
Reading your post again,@unknownuser said:
There are times when I want to see offset dimensions, especially when detailing in 3d
I understand that - 3D Osnap is useful in 3D View but,
I try to understand why do you need 3D Osnap in 2D View/Aligned View? -
@unknownuser said:
Had those three rectangular cubes been dimensioned via use of the section tool, they would be accurate to their 2d displacement.
Have you tried that Nik? I just tried with v8 on PC and still get the same 3D dimensions rather than the 2D cut plane dimensions
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@unknownuser said:
I would not want this to change, at least for my workflow. There are times when I want to see offset dimensions, especially when detailing in 3d. All of my plans & sections are generated through the section tool which by default creates a 2d plane that LO follows very well. If LO automatically flattened, it would eliminate the possibility of offset dimensions (which are accurate to their 3d arrangement) as shown in that link. Had those three rectangular cubes been dimensioned via use of the section tool, they would be accurate to their 2d displacement.
Just my 2 selfish cents.
Not sure how a custom aligned view would be detrimental. It would be user controlled. Use it if you want or ignore it if you wish. Just looking for an option that would work as ortho views are traditionally used, i.e.flattened. Using a section plane work around is clever, but it is still a work around for a "Layout" flaw IMO.
Sketchup team should address this and fix it in such a way that "Layout" will treat any ortho view (standard or custom) as a flattened view with the 2d dimensioning accuracy that is reasonably expected. If offset dimensions are required, then a 3d view with dimensions could be used.
Not ready or willing to suspend drafting convention, when the fix is possibly simple. Even if it is not simple,it is a task worth under taking in order to have LO become a seriously considered 2d presentation/construction documentation solution.
BTW, Sonder your work is impressive.
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