Thanks, finally ended up doing it so that I drew the logo (a very simple text logo) in SU and push/pulled it up to 3D form, then intersected it with the curved surface and removed extra graphics.

Ok, I see. It's probably possible by editing the kml or rather the exported dae file. When you export to kmz, it is actually a zip file with a different name. you can rename it and see what's "inside". But do not ask me what to edit there. It's a long text file and there are different values added to shaders and such.

I think I'll re visit that area plugin, maybe it can be tweaked.

All right, Solid Solver, too.

@massimo said: Never apply textures to an entire group/component at once. Open the group-->apply the texture to a face-->rotate it-->pick the paint bucket tool-->alt+click on the face with the texture-->paint the adiacent face-->alt+click on that face and pick the adiacent face and so on. Well, I did some more testing and this time I got the eye dropper to work so I did not have to use the alt+click methond (which BTW worked). I created my box. Applied the texture and then rotated it. Once again, after rotating I used the eye dropper to click on the rotated texture. I then just clicked on an additional face and it applied the rotated texture. I also tried a second time by doing the first 2 steps, then just selected the entire box (did not make it a group) and when I used the paint bucket while the entire box was selected, it applied the rotated texture to all sides........ Makes me wonder what I did the first time that the eye dropper method did not work........ I really appreciate the feed back from you and cotty......

@toddwilli said: I have searched the forums for info on this problem, but found nothing since 2009! Anyone got any good ideas? If this was a known problem back in ver 6, why has it not been solved by ver 8? Thanks for any help. Its was/is a known problem, so much so, that an entire application was created to solve this problem, it's called LayOut.

Actually, you do have the eye dropper. Select the Paint Bucket tool and hold Command while clicking on the face.

I'll keep looking in that section. I can't believe sometimes what a slow learner I can be... smoothed, hidden, texture scales, etc.. Thanks very much for your help. [image: f9EH_trees-5.JPG]

My way works for me. Do you use a Style that has Profiles set [say at 2] for the current exported scene [I think you must have, as the dialog's option ought to be 'grayed-out' otherwise ?]. Also why aren't you exporting Full-Size [1:1] - I can't see any logic in other ratios - you model in the SKP and in a DWG with 1 file-unit == 1 world-unit [in 'model-space' at least]. My profile's polyline thickness is set to a few mm, BUT it's overridden by 'auto' being checked anyway. On a MAC you don't seem to have 'version' choices for the DWG file's format These are the only differences I can see... If you mimic my settings as near as you can do you get any improvement? ...

Thanks Peter, hope it helps him out. I've no experience of Layout or section planes so I could not help. John

Quite. Not made for SU, not the way I practice it anyway.

Why do you think it is not coplanar? I find I can draw, push pull, face, etc.. on your model. First you say you can't draw but later you say the errors were the results of your drawing? Surely a good idea to keep your work distinct from the imported entities, as has been advised. I would do that immediately by grouping, and also through layers.

@bogmusic said: Yes, I am getting them at start-up roughly 60% of the time My problem with this cleared up on it's own without me doing anything. Go figure.

Hi Jean, the example file is overly simplified, but demonstrated my issue, but maybe I over-simplified it. Simply moving the face is possible, but in my situation I had an irregular shape with faces aligned on many different XY angles and I wanted to be able to selectively push-pull them out on the horizontal. As it turned out I needed to use a combination of your technique and smart-push pull to get the shape I wanted. Thanks for your reply - Mick

okay thanks

@mingjae said: btw, is there any free plugins to scale by vertex? I mean like FFD in 3ds max to create a better model for flag or blanket, curtain etc? Like SketchYFFD? http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=8295

the model is at 49.190966N,16.611552E so the UTC+1 time zone should be fine - the shadows appear correctly at rendertime, i just miss them in the preview. no other view mode (shaded/textured/monochrome...) brings them back. as for the toggle - as is seen on the screenshot, only the 'From Edges' option switches its state. EDIT: ha, i found the solution; see attached screenshot. thanks everyone for answers [image: 6xRI_SU-shadows-resolved.png]