Well the way I make a surface a plane is to use the rotated rectangle, pick three points that should lay on the same plane. This makes a rectangle that is a least a flat plane to three of the points. Then I offset the rectangle until it covers the area I wish to cover, then intersect with model, and pesto, a flat plane. Note, if the flat plane does not connect to all the edges, you will need to move the plane to connect to all the other surfaces, or modify the surfaces that don't connect to the plane. Ken

if a smart phone can understand speech almost flawlessly, why can't the same be done with sketchup? instead of wasting time looking for a component in a custom library's long list, just say what you want...and bingo, you're done. even if you use the library's search utility, it still takes time to type.....plus the search utility times-out and acts finicky.

@tuna1957 said: Walt, No worries. I can relate to the over the head comment. It's where I spend most of my time. It doesn't help that I didn't explain the problem and how to correct it very well. Going to try to clarify it a little better, I hope ! You need to edit the texture that is not rendering properly outside of SU in Photo Shop or Gimp. You change the color mode from "indexed" to "RGB" in the photo editor and then load back into the SU model and then it should render the correct color/texture. I did not know that. I have heard about color being the proper mode, but not the specific problem.

Walt, glad I could help. chuck.

Well it's better, I think I may still have to play around with ThruPaint some more. [image: cgaR_OceanHousecopy2.jpg]

Gorgeous!

It's a resort in Rhode Island called Ocean House http://www.oceanhouseri.com I saw it some where on the internet and had one of those " I can model that" moments years ago. I only recently took it up again. I have a long ways to go and lots of detail to refine but this a rendering I recently did with Twilight . [image: dHz7_OceanHousecopy3_Alllayerson.jpg]

well Dave R , once happy that I was able to recover my old versions functionality , I beated my fear ,... and installed the 2017 version again , ... AND now , everything ( all my old versions + 2017) is working fine . just to let you know . Thanks

Thanks Rich I found it

Oh course thanks

Well I ended up exported XML in Twilight and then altered the material.

Thanks

@mwm5053 said: And one more thing using modifier keys like command and option aren't allowed. I'm on a Mac by the way. That palette issue within SU since day 1 for me, easy workaround in System Preferences. Does need modifier keys though. Can toggle all the different toolbars...plus your shortcuts show in menu in case your memory slips I would be surprised if you can't use modifiers for keystrokes with that exotic mouse. [image: Sk4X_Untitled-SketchUpProat8.08.48AM.png]

Thanks TIG

Mate don't count on one shot capturing all! Get the BEST shot!

My work around for now is using UV tool on a simple plane and export this as OBJ. The tex file will be set aside of the OBJ... Voila! Eat this SU! id did add this URL as file name, some windows path of the original builder. Perhaps this causes issues. I think those forward and backward slash at the beginning cause problems on mac "C/\Users\Adam\Documents\Adam Models\SpringLeafBoxwood01.png"

@mwm5053 said: I've been using SU 8 Pro and skipped SU 2013 but started using 2014 because I saw big improvements that were worth checking out mainly faster shadows. So my 8 hour time expired but won't let me use a free ver. like 2013 SU Make. Till I can afford to upgrade assuming I can jump from SU 8 to 2014 for the 95.00 upgrade fee {can I ?} wondering why it won't let me use free ver. SU 2014 Pro trial ends after 8 hours use. But remains on your computer. You need to uninstall first, then install SU 2014 Make (trial). I guess you won't get the extra 8 hours now. It reverts to the free version. You can upgrade later to pro by entering the license key.

FYI, SketchUcation Tools 2.6 allows you to open the plugins folder.... [image: file.php?mode=view&id=118881] ...you can also install plugins and extensions using the... SketchUcation Tools > SketchUcation Archive Installer [image: K5XW_plugnis-folder.gif]

Ill batch rework the images and reupload tomorrow

So the Alert shows that it caught the error, but evidently I don't know how to read out the message. BTW, I added that "Hello!" just because a blank dialog leaves me wondering if anything happened. Steve