Not working yet. Missing the whole UI. But same idea as the sliders, that is you can play normal time, fast or put at any state via the slider, depending on the options you choose. Fredo

Here is a render of a car wash building done with Animator beta v1.1b and Twilight Render Pro version2.6.2. http://youtu.be/celI7sVT9gE I used the new tool to smooth out orbiting of the model using the new circular camera path (curved) in the latest version of Animator. I also used the latest version of Twilight Render Pro. Yes, there are several things that are wrong with the model but this was a test of make sure I could get closer to where I want to go. I am will be working on a cleaner and better version of the model but wanted to let people see how you can use these two tools together. Just in cause you are interested, this particular render took 15:00:07.

I assume this what you are meaning and "it works for me". [image: B7Di_LayerControlv2.gif] I started the sequence with the spray layer off, then added a capture with it turned on and the finished with another capture where the layer is off again. This achieves what I was wanting. Still think it would be kind of cool if you could use the duration to turn it off and on but I can sure use it this way. I think this makes more sense and gives us a lot more flexibility than tying it to a view or camera because I can use the two independently. Here is still another version that shows how changing the views during the sequence adds some flexibility as opposed to tying the layer visibility to views (again MHO). [image: cD28_LayerControlv3.gif] I also saw that I can group the movement sequence along with the layer visibility captures and views as a group. Again, IMO, this could be very valuable for the future. Thanks for this feature and being patient enough to help me understand how to use this capability a little better. Now if you just come up with some miracle way to animate the spray texture I would be more excited than you want to imagine .

Sorry fluid, maybe I wasn't clear on that, but I don't own a copy of it though I think it's very cool! I will definetelly consider it when I need something of the sorts though...

Thanks Fredo....... Would it be possible to have a sequence that allowed you to show/hide a layer? In my example, the only thing that is different between the 2 scenes is that the "spray" layer shows in one scene but not the other. Could be an interesting tool to be able to toggle layers like in the SU scene. But, I can certainly work with it the way it is.

KT is not so user friendly and full of features as Thea is (haven't tried it), still it has a lot of power and control, and it's possible to pick up and get results pretty quickly. KT has a LOT more to offer than most "free" software.

Thanks Dave. Using a pic and turning it into a light source is a real quick way if you only have one or two windows in a scene. The orange was textured using a .png pic of a real orange. It was the biggest pain of everything in the picture. I had to use the SketchUV plugin to do a spherical mapping to get the texture to look o.k. Like you this stuff is a real departure from what I do at work. Having a lot of fun with it.

Paul, that looks great. One of the challenges I have had/have is in rendering metals. I agree that if you are rendering a product the context is indeed important. I still feel I have a lot to learn. One of the thinks I struggle with is the vocabulary and most of the tutorials I try to read assume you have full comprehension of it.

Why I am using a laptop exclusively is a kind of long story but the bottom line is that I am a retired guy who does some part time modeling (less than 10hrs/month) for a company that builds car washes. It is their laptop which is a gaming machine with plenty of memory and a 17" screen. I do most of the work sitting in the kitchen and do not have an external monitor sitting in here for me to work with. If I had a dedicated work environment I would definitely use an external monitor. They recruited me and got me started using SketchUp. I do not have an engineering background and although I like computer graphics, I do not consider myself an artist in any stretch of anyone's imagination. However, all of that said, I am enjoying learning how to use SketchUp and am trying to expand my knowledge base. I like the concept of the trays because they allow me to at least semi organize my work environment the way it is most convenient for me. I tried having the trays docked on the right but the constant flying in and out and having to try to catch the tray sometimes and having it disappear at the wrong time because of mouse movement kind of gets to me. I organized them as follows: Objects - this try combines Entity Info, Materials, and Soften Edges since these are the most used facilities when developing components or working on model layouts. I also use the Entity Info to assign items in the layout to a Layer for later controlling what is visible in a given scene. Components - I put this try by itself because I have build around 200 components (pieces of car wash equipment) that I then use in the layout for a car wash. Scenes/Layers- I combined these two because I use scenes in every layout to show different views of the car wash layout. A couple of those scenes show dimensions and text that tells what each piece of equipment is and is location in feet along the conveyor. By combining the Scenes/Layers into a single tray can easily manage which layers are visible in a scene without jumping back and forth to different trays. Outliner - The only thing in this tray is the outliner. This gives me quick access to the outliner and managing the organization of the layout. I do not use this tray very often but it does give me access to the facility. Styles - I have a pretty standard style that I use for all of my car wash layouts so I do not mess with them very often. I have also added things like shadows, fog, & match photo combined on this tray because I rarely these function. Help - Again, I rarely use this tray but it is there if I need it. Here is an image of my current tray configuration: [image: yxwM_SU-Trays.PNG] I do have this one docked on the right side of the screen and is always there. I have found this to be more convenient for me and the way I work.

At the end in theory you must have something like this! [image: jrCd_split.jpg]

Thanks Rich I am on SketchUcation a lot everyday. If nothing more, just trying to learn from the posts. My initial point was that I think this is confusing for users. I should have captured the URL's before. I want to be a contributor when possible. I think SketchUcation is a great site for anyone who uses SketchUp.

@Box - Can you see the bright red glow on my face....that short video is what I needed to get me started. I really appreciate it............... OK - Here is a start...... [image: wcQJ_QFT-Glass.png] Wow, the file size it huge. Need to make sure you always have the low poly version available

There's something to learn here.

@jql said: Nope, nothing's changed. But you might have been using a different style or there might be something you're not aware of and so you're not telling us. Well interesting.......... I just took the 2015 file and opened it again in 2016. I noticed that the style icon had the round arrows on it so I updated the style and WaaaLaaa, it worked. So it was a styles issue all along. Do not know why I did not see that yesterday. Now a couple more interesting things: I do not have any layers or section names associated with the section plane I added the SectionCutFace and was able to set the color of various portions of the section cut.One interesting showed up that I had not seen before when using the SectionCutFace. Of course it showed all of the cuts to the walls and applied a face which I was able to color to match the texture of the walls and floor. Then a new one showed up in that it applied a face with the default color to the entire rest of the building. I then colored that face white and set the opacity to 0. Now a couple of questions: When trying the SectionCutFace plugin before I had not seen that happen. I did do the update of the plugin yesterday. Is this a bug? Even though I got the section cut to work properly today, is this the wrong way to do it? I have seen several other examples and tutorials before where the author (and some of them very advanced authors) did not add a section name and put it on a layer to control the visibility. I suppose (and looking at the parameters of the SectionCutFace plugin) that the best organization is to name the section cut and put it on a layer and control the visibility via the layer. Just trying to understand the best/correct way because I will be using this for some later endeavors.

Not 100% sure yet but it appears that it may be the Extrude Tools extension. I can reproduce it every time I use that extension.

Rich, I can fully understand your position. I was just struggling to try to find some way to make it easier to find the tips and tricks that people post. Sometimes I remember seeing something but cannot find it. The search facility is OK but many times it does not get me to what I am looking for. The other thing is that many times the search engine will point to a thread but what you are looing for is buried in the middle of a big string of posts. I know there is no perfect solution but I was trying to find a way to organize the many great pieces of information people share in this forum. My original post was trying to find a mechanism, like a flag, that would maybe provide a more efficient way to find/retrieve information. I do not know how the backend of the forum engine works but I assume it is a database. Again, in the back of my mind, I was thinking about a facility that would allow someone (moderator or poster) to add the flag which would popup a dropdown list of categories (SU Tools and Plugin names) that could be associated with the post. Then the search engine would allow you to select by those flags so the individual post could be retrieved without having to find it buried in the middle of a long thread. I like your thought of putting together some way (like a vote) to get feedback on whether people would be interested in a facility like that.

@srx said: You need to be more patient in reading. You missed this : @srx said: Today I found out that plugin has time limit. How to continue using it? @dimitri972 said: I fixed time expired problem. Here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/download/brjzmnqzbcv38fp/RichSectionv0.5.8FULLByDimitri.zip Author was't answering question for months. I tried to fixing expired issue and fixed. If this isn't wanting thing in this forum, you can delete my post. I don't know forum rules. I did see the link but did not understand that is was a fix for the plugin. The fix needs to be made to the version that is in the Plugin Store in SketchUcation (which is where I got the plugin). This means that everyone who downloads if from SketchUcation is getting a version that does not work. According to the info on the SketchUcation web site, it was updated 03-01 of 2015. There also is no mention of licensing, time out period, or cost for the plugin. Just trying to clarify so that others do not have the same problem although I saw that it has been downloaded over 12000 times. I would like some clarification on what is going on.