@pmolson said: Question 1. Do you actually use a 4k yourself? nope and surely won't because to much strain to the eyes, but click on "etc." above for further info concerning this issue. @pmolson said: Question 2. Wondering if i run two displays... wouldn't recommend multi-monitor setups because regularly difficult with OpenGL-based 3D applications and also may mix up toolbar positions etc. because of negative screen coordinates if e.g. monitor #2 is placed left from the main monitor #1. @pmolson said: Question 3. Any Idea when sketchup will support 4k displays? nope but obviously not before SU v2018 not avail before roughly end of this year... if included. in short, don't try this @ home

@srx said: Maybe this? https://app.box.com/s/3xmdn2yngv6zag8du8uhzc6uuilnou7z "Working drawings may be purchased for $15.00 " Wow!

Paul, that looks great. One of the challenges I have had/have is in rendering metals. I agree that if you are rendering a product the context is indeed important. I still feel I have a lot to learn. One of the thinks I struggle with is the vocabulary and most of the tutorials I try to read assume you have full comprehension of it.

If Animator would work with LightUp you would be able to select it.

You must check Slender plugin. @unknownuser said: Description: Exports SketchUp model do Collada file, in command-line mode imports into Blender scene, bakes textures, exports Collada file from and finally imports to SketchUp

Different triangulation plugins can work, but you still get problems. You should consider manually creating 'guides' in your models to provide triangulation 'hints' for your model. Take this part of the alamo model I'm doing. You can see how the lines in the faces help with the triangulation. [image: Trian.jpg] You can of course use the eraser tool and ctrl-click (PC, not sure Mac) to 'hide' the lines and they will still work as shown: [image: Trian2.jpg] FWIW, the fastest triangulation plugin I've found is the SketchUV plugin triangulator.

Good job. Looks fine!

@pipingguy said: Thanks! And it seems to be permanent....vs. lasting only for one session. Yes - provided you save the model. Page behavior is a property of each Layer and is saved within the model.

dohh - thanks for the quick answer jorgensen

[image: nVNk_Ztest1.jpg][image: faeB_Ztest2.jpg]Hi Numberosis, I think I know the issue. I found I offset the image by 1mm does work, of course, but the graffiti image did not show up in SU therefore I assumed it would not show up in the render if it did not show up in SU. I have attached images showing firstly the view in SU and the result of that same view in the render.

Those many lines are the way sketchup has to convert CAD splines into sketchup curves with high accuracy. You probably don't need that much accuracty for terrain contours.

@dave r said: I think the trays are a great idea and wouldn't want to go back to the old way. I was setting up SketchUp for years with the utility windows stacked on the right outside of the drawing window so the tray thing mimics my old setup with the added benefit of a little more toolbar space across the top. I found it incredibly annoying to have the windows covering the modeling space. Keeping them outside the modeling space eliminates that. +1 I don't know if you guys are using make or pro, but every new version of Sketchup, even if it doesn't bring a whole new set of features, represented a significant improvement for me, mainly because of Layout, but still an improvement that I can appreciate.

thanks to Eneroth, i learned that the axis origin of a group can be moved to wherever you need it by right-clicking one of the axis lines in the edit mode and choosing ''place''. you then close, re-open and scale. but to be clear, i am talking about re-sizing - not scaling. although re-sizing can also be construed as re-scaling. clear as mud?

I'm one of those people that try to push sketchup beyond what is meant to, but what I found when doing that, is Sketchup is able to stretch and I gain productivity. I ditched away CAD in exchange for SU and there is more people doing that each year. I believe that Sketchup will adjust in time and be even more competent for that. Revit is what it is, it's much more than Sketchup for certain architectural businesses, but Sketchup is fit for 90% of the other scenarios. What I like about Sketchup is that it isn't as streamlined as Revit and so allows for a multidisciplinar approach and a very flexible workflow that I couldn't find with Revit. I have quit using Revit long ago and adopted Sketchup instead. I didn't fully use Revit, but it seemed to me a standard architectural software that somehow forced us to work in a standard way. I don't know how Revit evolved since then but Sketchup, even limited as an Architectural software, allows for creative freedom. The downside is that it forces us to find convoluted methods to get standard output done. Even so, I rather keep using Sketchup as I cherish that design freedom. I find advantage on that freedom even in the latest stages of design and construction documentation. It's probably because of that that I also don't use your plugins Meedek. I admire your work but cannot think in standards nor work always on similar contexts. Your plugins represent standards so I have no great use for them, hence I thought Revit was fit for them. However, as you see with Plusspec, Sketchup is useful for people that deal with standards too. The problem with plusspec might be about Layout then, as it isn't yet as capable as Revit for documentation standard output.

Might be worth trying to update/reinstall your graphics driver as TIG hinted? I experience the same symptoms if i revert to my iGPU [intel hd4000 on a i7 3770k] AND Win10 has done an update. As a short term solution using the intel driver assistant to manually reinstall the Intel driver has always got things working again for me and is easier than uninstalling the microsoft update. I'm not too concerned as i only use the iGPU occasionally when I want to continue working and my discrete GPUs are rendering. If the above is relevant, and you have a desktop, then a discrete GPU might be worth considering?

I suppose that you say Vray for SketchUp ... ? It's maybe not the same price! ( * 6-7 ) I am not sure it makes seven times better images ? Vray is not known for its facility of use...

@cuttingedge said: I was refering to Max files (from CG axis, evermotion etc) full scenes being converted to sketchup... Many of those are pirated, but it's rare that you see something that can't be done in SUp. I think we don't see many examples because a lot of people are happy to buy, download and import whatever they need. It does take a lot of dedication to model complex items in SUp, so it's sort of understandable.

Do any of you that have used the Surface Book with SketchUp have any updates since the last post? I am seriously considering getting a Surface Book i7, 16gb, 512 ssd with the performance base. I want to run SU 2017. Keep in mind I will be using this to mostly present models and make some adjustments on the fly. Most of my modeling will be on my desktop.

@filibis said: Hi Alan, You probably saw his other plugin in use: Vertex Tools Thanks Mr. Filibis Yep I made a mistake by searching for another pluging I was looking for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OpGb0NwHc0 If someone is searching for the same plugin, I found it here: https://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5475

@juju said: You could always download the RBZ and do a "manual" installation via the Extension Manager, that is what I did. Great minds think alike mate, downloaded new RBZ and installed via Extension Manager. Easy peezy. Thank you