OK, you [almost] got me... Webster's US spelling ideas were to base America's English spellings on the original roots - which he took usually to be Latin - as in ***center/centrum, color/em, labor/em, honor/em etc, instead of centre, colour, labour, honour etc used in Johnson's 'English' English taken via the French... [***actually even 'kentrus' is also a Greek word for a 'spur-point', but became the more usual meaning 'center' when in Latin] So, although some words did originate in Greek, they had long been borrowed into Latin - like Greek's metron/metros which became Latin's meteri/metiri/metrum [both concerning 'measure']... Words like 'metrology' do come from two Greek roots - 'measure' and study' - metron-logos... The word 'meter' for a measuring device is [probably] from the Greek root too... English is also proficient at wrongly combining Greek and Latin roots into single words - e.g. 'Television' [Tele=Far (Greek) + Visio=Sight (Latin)] - which might have been more logical as something like Teletheamation or Videoeminus ??? The French Commission in charge of sorting out their newfangled 'metric' system chose the word 'metre' as the length-unit's name - most say from the Greek root 'metron'>'a measure' - and it is often prefixed with Greek 'number-roots' like deca, kilo, giga, micro, nano etc, but also several Latin rooted ones like deci, centi, milli, micro [Gr&L!] etc, to confuse things completely. Latin's 'metrum' ain't that different anyway and the French did make Latin's 'center/centrum'>'centre' so why not with 'metre'? So I still believe that Webster's spelling of 'meter' for a unit of length was taken from the Latin root 'meter(i)' as it was his preferred root source - albeit perhaps mistakenly, if the French had indeed taken it from Greek as 'metre' ! To quote Webster's Dictionary directly on this: 'Meter' = Old English mēter, from Latin metrum, from Greek metron = measure, meter; Anglo-French metre, from Latin metrum... What's in a name ? ... I used the word 'invent' in invisible 'quotes' - they did 'make' the 'metric' system - by definition it is based on their newfangled 'metres' !

@jim said: This is how it works. I set the response window 0.07 seconds, so there is almost no lag. Probably a setting of 5 seconds would provide frequent enough updates to allow an abort, and still be nearly as fast as possible. You're using a timer of some sort?

My Seagate HDD I bought last year has 3 of them, 2 square ones, and 1 on the circuit board looks like 4 square version one after the other, preceded and followed by regular bar code.

@gaieus said: There is this same difference with expandable and non-expandable nested components. I think it was Chris who brought it up on that other forum why we cannot have collapsed components in the browser when the child components only exist nested in parents? It would be logical and very comfortable as tiny bits would not pollute your valuable work space. Yes - I'd really like to see the user (and developers via the API) to be able to control which components are expanded (internal) or not. Would make organizing a model so much easier.

@tig said: You can easily get the material's color's RGB. You then need to write a png file with those values. Import it in as a texture for that material... There are image writing modules for Ruby with stuff like GD2 ? PNG files are not trivial to deal with. If anyone are knows of a lightweight lib to use with SU Ruby then I'd be very interested. I just wrote my own BMP reader for a plugin I'm working on. A BMP writer would be easy - but the downside is the filesize...

Ok thanks for the information - at least I know now it is not my fault which is usually the case. @tig said: OR... use my tool http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=HolePunchTool to add associated reveal geometry to a hole-cutting component... I'll check that out.

@jim said: Yeah, that's pretty much all there is to it. Make sure to read all the values; you can't skip them even if you don't use them. Because of variable chunk length? @jim said: I made a mistake when I said the values did not match - it works out no problem. You managed to recreate an SU camera? What's the lens value? AOV? FOV?

@jim said: The conclusion I keep coming to is that a WebDialog-based User Interface Manager is the solution. But I'm not sure what that would look like. One idea I've been playing with recently: a tool that launches other tools. Then you could hide all toolbars. When you want to switch tool, you hit a shortcut that activates the tool that brings up a set of toolbars drawn on the viewport - like Fredo's tools.

Vue, is different as they do not call themselves a render solution, but rather 'Digital nature', which they do well. Only now are they looking into Archvis and creating aproduct for this industry.

@daniel said: The sad truth is that a lot of people hit by the bad economy are drowning their sorrows in alcohol. It's a 10-year record-breaking trend: Liquor sales in Ohio reach all-time high for 10th year in a row. But I'm sure there is some truth in in the thought. Personally, I only drink when I'm at home and not asleep.

The current site is here: http://rainbath.imcore.eu/

@thomthom said: Will need to do some testing. I got an OSX and Linux box... Here's a test page for the SystemColors: http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/samples/author/dhtml/colors/sys_colors.htm

There isn't any way to enumerate the menus and toolbar buttons plugins has registered?

@adamb said: FWIW This is essentially how LightUp works under the hood. I've had for some time realtime painting tools working in LightUp but I've never had time to productize them. Adam Maybe a MakeUp plugin.

Ok, it's called the Antarctic Snow Cruiser, and although it had a number of innovative features, it was also a total failure - getting stuck in a relatively little amount of snow and abandoned. No one is quite sure where it is today - it could still be buried under the snow where it was left; or it could have drifted out to sea and sank when the ice shelf it was sitting on broke off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Snow_Cruiser http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/08/26/planting-the-stars-and-stripes-in-the-antarctic/

It works OK for me, BUT don't tick 'model-extents'... and under 'properties' set your page orientation to landscape ?

Perfect! Exactly what I was looking for... I guess I just didn't scroll far enough down the page when I searched 'rotate camera' in the plugins forum. Thanks TIG

@honoluludesktop said: Sorry for the beginners question, but can someone tell me how the first vertex in a face is determined? Is it the point of insertion? Guess the direction of the face is then related to the sequence in the array? 1) Front or back visible when drawing a rectangle is determined by the direction the diagonal is going. Not by first and second click. 2)It also depends in which axes plane you are drawing. Just 1) and 2) determine front and back for new rectangles not touching other rectangles. Otherwise they tend to inherite their orientations. (Circles and polygons follow different rules) See attached file Face_orient.skp with the diagram. Try it to see what happens when. http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=509c2a6868ab3855b2dd3120ca5e0662