@dave r said:

You're not being forced to do that. Why not take the easy route and let the ExtensionStore tool update those extensions that need it automatically?

Are you still using an ancient Pre-2013 version of SketchUp as your profile indicates?

I'm using SketchUp 2021, it's been a while since I updated my profile.

At the start I didn't even know that I have and need ExtensionStore tools, only until after I installed fredospline and tried to use it a warning popped and up informing me that I needed to update it.

Well now everything is working again, thanks for listen to my update pain.

Wow, that's annoying when Fredo plugins stop working from time to time and I'm forced to do some serious and confusing manual reading, clicking through warning messages, downloading and reinstalling this and that before the plugin is working again.

Most people who are interested in small living spaces do so because they simply cannot afford bigger ones.

Without addressing the root causes (supply, migration, income) that drive the need for very small housing, nothing will change. However, since large population groups cannot change the conditions due to which they can't afford largeer housing, the only thing they can do is by coping with these conditions as good as possible - above all, this means "smart furniture", using multifunctional room concepts.

@baz said:

Be a bit hard to sit in that chair tho' unless you had anti-grav device:)

The idea is to put it down when someone wants to sit and put it up when it's not needed. For someone of at least 170cm it's fast and simple to put it down and up. Yes cooking smells are a concern. The upholstery can be washed though. A leather cover might be a better choice.

@baz said:

PS: I think that small spaces should have the least amount of 'Adaptable/Configurations'.
The worst, in my opin, is the pull out bed. Unless it's a single. The next worse is the fold up table, really?
A Tiny House is not camping or making do. It's a home.

I'd say small spaces should have as little as possible but as many as necessary space saving solutions. There smaller the space there more complicated it is to fit different functions and there more trade offs need to be accepted.

Yes, folding tables need to be cleared when folded, and pull out beds can only be used when pulled out, but folding beds or loft beds have other problems. I think that every tiny space solution inevitably comes with specific compromises that cannot be avoided. Some compromises are better than others though and it depends on the user - a cild or student in his twenties might be ok with climbing up a ladder of a loft bed but people over 40 maybe not so much.

I don't like solutions that require a lot of time to set up, concentration and complicated mechanisms.

I've been watching a lot of french cleat videos lately.

My kitchen is too small for a permanent seating area. So I thought, mhh, why not turn an IKEA Pöang chair upside down and hang it from the wall with a French cleat?

Ikea Pöang chairs are comfortable, lightweight and the frame is perfect for a French cleat. It is only necessary to exchange a board on the bottom for a board with a 45° cut. The wooden frame is made of birch or beech plywood, which makes it very easy to obtain wood for the replacment part. It is also possible to simply cut a 45° angle onto the existing part.

It takes about 5 seconds and one smooth motion to raise and lower the chair. No fiddling with a folding mechanism required.

The flipped chair has a width of 82 cm. My kitchen has a height of 300 cm.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/VCFYdskLzp4uQuk3A

@mike lucey said:

Yes Mike, I'm finding the project very interesting.

The stairs is tricky to get right. My proposed ground floor to bottom of floor joists will be 2.1m (approx 7'0"). I will expose the floor joists in order to give the impression of more height. The rise per step will be approx 230mm a shade over the normally allowed maximum in standard dwellings (225mm).

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I've used this type of stairs on a few attic conversions in the past and once the occupier gets used to them they work fine. I have included two hand rails which wrap around the 1st floor partition. These should help to make the stairs safer to use.

I find "box-shaped" space-saving stairs very aesthetically pleasing. They also allow optimal use of storage space under the stairs, which is highly relevant for tiny houses.

https://www.pinterest.at/pin/423197696229129406/

As I understand it, the advantage of the other design is that they can rotate and be bought ready made at fairly low cost, in hardware store, ebay, amazon...

https://www.obi.at/innentreppen/minka-raumspartreppe-twister-birke-multiplex-raumhoehe-bis-294-cm/p/8457103?wt_mc=gs.pla.Bauen.TreppenGelaender.Innentreppen&wt_cc1=671697346&wt_cc4=c&wt_cc9=39694843808&gclid=CjwKCAiA3L6PBhBvEiwAINlJ9F0_-YWOBvKHORWVB1K1imddcrAbAICSj7HsDT4i6Lh6eJiwXlmGQhoCpwUQAvD_BwE#/

Ahhh, "rectangular", got it. Now it's working. I somehow missed that. I thought "plane".

Many Thanks Pilou! I'm glad you are still around!

I am using flowify for the first time with very simple geometry but I get the error message

" INPUT ERROR: Error while parsing the projection grid".

I have checked my model several times but I don't understand what I do wrong. I have also named all the groups like Pilou in his first post.

If someone could tell me what i do wrong I'd appreciate it.

flowify.skp

Thank you TIG for taking the time and replying my question! And also BIG THANKS to you for all your plugins!

I couldn't stand it anymore and so I decided to reinstall the whole damn windows 10 because my system showed all kind of funky behavior. I suspect there was something fishy going with visual C++. I don't know I am not that splendid computer expert.

I have reinstalled SU and fredo scale and it's behaving nicely, let's see how long that will last.

Have a good evening!

Hi,

I have un- and reinstalled SU 2016 today. After opening the 1st re-installation of SU I saw that the previous extensions showed up. I was thinking they will be uninstalled too in the uninstall process. But apparently that didn't happen. When I tried to use the extension fredo scale it didn't work. The toolbar of FS showed up and I could click on icons in the toolbar but the cursor didn't turn accordingly to the selected tool icon and when I hovered over my geometry the cursor didn't showed any context sensitive behavior as it normally should with eg. fredo scale.

I tried to tackle the problem with deleting all extensions in the app data folder and re installing the extensions but the problem remained.

I know that I need LibFredo6 for FredoScale to work and I have installed both properly.

Any suggestions what might be wrong?

Thanks!