@LindaRose

To properly install programs like SketchUp on Windows you must right click on the installer and select Run as administrator. Having admin priveleges with your Windows sign in is not the same. Close SketchUp and LayOut, find the installer in your Downloads folder or get a fresh copy at https://www.sketchup.com/en/download/all Right click on it, choose Run as administrator, and when presented with the option, choose Repair. Then do a cold reboot of your computer. That is, power it completely off. Then restart it.

@LindaRose said in Add Location:

It's not an extension either

Add Location is an extension. It is accessed via the File menu but it is an extension. After you repair the SketchUp installation go to Extensions>Extension Manager and see what version of Add Location you have. This is what I see.

Is it possible that the area you are importing is small and have almost no elevation change? I couldn't ID the exact spot in your screenshot but the area on Black Canyon Road doesn't have a whole lot of variation.

When you installed SketchUp 2024 did you right click on the installer and choose Run as administrator? Is the Add Location extension up to date?

@LindaRose said in Add Location:

Did you mean that there is no geolocation info available for that area?

I meant there are some places for which there is no terrain data available. I didn't say anything about Estes Park, CO, though. I just inserted some terrain from Estes Park in SU 2024 with no problem.

What operating system are you using?

@LindaRose what is the exact location? It might be that there is no 3D terrain for the area of interest.

@_dpdp_ for some reason a cookie is not getting written in your browser's cache when you click on the button.

If you use the Sketchucation ExtensionStore tool as Rich shows, it will install extensions directly so you don't have to download them to your computer and then use Install Extension in the Extension Manager. In addition to making extensions easier to install the first time, using the Sketchucation ExtensionStore to install extensions from here means when extensions get updated you can find out and quickly update them. In addition you can see what extensions you've installed and when you move to a new computer or a new version of SketchUp, you'll have a bundle of extensions that can be installed automatically. The Sketchucation ExtensionStore is required for license management for paid extensions like those from Fredo6, too.

@LindaRose if the cursor looks like the one in Rich's screen shot, the tool will create guides. If you tap Ctrl so the curosr is the tape measure without the red +, it will only measure withot created any guides.

Guide points are created if you start from a point or intersection. Guide lines are created if you start from an axis line, an edge, or another guideline. That's all there is to the tool.

@pipingguy You might consider creating an object with copies of the bottom faces of the beams that you can "put away" when you don't need it. You could even set up a scene in the model that shows the object for when you need to test for collisions or at least create a viewport from your plan view scene with the beams turned off and the bottom faces of the beams shown.

@ivansmirnov333 from the first post in the thread:

@fredo6 said in [Plugin][$] VisuHole - v1.5a - 01 Apr 24:

In the current version, Stencils must be picked in the model.

This implies that your stencils must be present in the model. You could create components of your stencils and save them into a local collection.

@pipingguy so the dashed lines in your file are basically the same as z-fighting which occurs when two face share the same place. Yyou've set up your model so the side faces of the beams are viewed edge on and in the 2D viewport that put the bottom edge and the top edge in the same place.

TBH there are better ways to set this up. I copied the geometry of interest out of your model and into a new .skp file. I simplified the beams so each one is a sold object the way you would model them in the first place; just boxes. I also removed the tag for the beam top and bottom faces as you don't need to complicate the model that way. I also removed all dashes in SketchUp. The scene in SketchUp looks like this.

After sending to LayOut, I set up the viewport to the desired scale on the page and rendered it as Vector. I added a second layer on top of the Default and copied the viewport to that layer. (Copy, Paste to Current Layer).

So now I have two copies of the viewport stacked on top of each other in perfect alignment. For the top viewport I turned off all the tags except the one called "BEAMS AND COLS". I also set the style to Hidden Line. Hidden Line with Vector rendering means only the visible edges are displayed. No z-fighting of edges, either. To create some contrast I also set the edge color for the beams and columns tag to red. Of course you do what you want with that. You could show those lines with a different dash style.

For the bottom viewport I turned OFF the tag for the beams and columns and left the others turned on. I set a dash style for the door swing arcs and another for the clearances which I tagged separately.

In LayOut, then, the view looks like this.

While I was screwing around I made a different version in which the style for the top viewport has Shaded or Shaded with Texture face style and Xray enabled. In the viewport I set the edge color for the beams and columns to gray. So it looks like this.

Here are the SketchUp and LayOut files.
PG.skp
PG Example.layout

I find it easier to manage dashes in LayOut and never set dashes for tags in SketchUp. I also created a collection of different styles to use in LayOut projects which select for individual viewports as needed so my SketchUp model only has a single"working" style. I would replace all the 3D in the model is labels and text in LayOut. If you made the various units as components instead of groups, you could add the required identifiers such as AC-22-2 in the description field and then auto fill the text in labels. This would give you nicer looking text and make it simple to place it in a spot that makes it more easily read. Annotations like that would go on a separate layer higher in the Layers list than the viewports.

By the way, if you would control tag visibility for viewports in LayOut you could manage with a single scene in SketchUp for all of your plan views in LayOut.

@pipingguy I see what the problem is from your SketchUp file. I'll be back.

@pace514 You managed to give the edges in the model the tag called GO-DIM while the the first level groups have either the 1/3 Fond or 2/3 Fond tag. You should create and keep all edges and faces untagged. I ran TIG's Default Tag Geometry to fix your model.

TAG question FIXED.skp

@jcarterKBdesign The horizontal rails need to have their X Position locked to the left corners of the left hand stile. The X Position of the right hand stile needs to be based on the width of the door

Here in my drawer component you can see how the positions of some of the elements are established. In this case the drawer box component's axes are placed so the drawer can be dropped into place at the front lower left corner of the opening and leave the required spacing.

@KathrynG said in Old Extensions and SU 24:

@TIG Whoops! Sorry gentlemen just double checked. My iMac has the M3 chip. Brand new.

You should probably check out TwinMotion or Rayscaper or Enscape. They are currently supported.

With your new computer you'll want to use applications that support its hardware.

@jcarterKBdesign It would help to see your .skp file to see how you've set up the properties for positioning the components. Looks like you've got the position properties set up incorrectly.

Personally I wouldn't use Scale. Instead I would set up fields so I can just type in the dimensions I want for the door. Here's an example DC that I created for a drawer box.

The first fields with the white backgrounds are for user entry. The ones with the gray backgrounds are information that can be included in a report so the manufacturer can quote the price and make the drawers in the project.

@KathrynG what happens when you try to use Twilight with the 2024 file when opened in 2022? What happens if you save the file after opening it in 2022? What happens if you close 2022 and then reopen the file?

If it's an issue with the M1 chip and Twilight you should be seeing it with files made in 2022 on that machine, as well.

I don't do a lot of rendering but when I do I use Vray since it's included with my subscription.

How old of a SketchUp version do you need? A 2024 file will open in SketchUp 2021 and newer.

@pipingguy Share the LayOut file so we can see what you've got going on. What version of SketchUp/LayOut? What operating system? What graphics card?

@jcarterKBdesign you're quite welcome.

A couple of things I maybe should have mentioned:

Building the model as I have here, the door frame would be made up of 12 components, 3 for each side of the frame. You could reduce that number to eight if you model the corners like this.

Not sure if it would be needed but if you were modeling a raised panel for the door, it would need to be divided into nine components. One for the center, one for each side, and one for each corner.

@jcarterKBdesign As you found, changing the length of the components is scaling operation. If you think about the miters as triangles, you're scaling the triangle along one leg which changes the angle of the hypotenuse. Simple geometry.

In the case of your mitered door frame you would need to split the rails and stiles into three separate components, a middle section with square ends and then a triangular component for the miter at each end. Then the setup for the DC would involve scaling the length of the center section and moving one of the end components. That will keep the 45° miter with length changes.

If you don't want to see the seam line between the three components, hide the end faces and their bounding edges to make the rail or stile look like a single object.

I did a quick example for one rail. I painted each component with a different shade of gray to show there are three separate ones.

And with the overall length changed.

@Shellbru I haven't seen that before. What happens if you try to export a raster image from a model in which you haven't used Clothworks? The extension shouldn't have anything to do with exporting raster images.

What version of SketchUp are you using? Which Mac OS version?