You are right, that doesn't match at all! That's a bug. I will have a look at it.
To work around this, you can manually increase the horizontal field-of-view (FOV) of your camera:
Rayscaper has a ton of options which makes the learning process kind of hard at times. From that point of view, while Twilight Render may not have had as many options, the user interface, at least is some aspects was a little simpler and easier to learn. Hope you do not take this as negative comments. I do not mean it that way.
It was not taken as negative! It's all good feedback. I understand it's not easy to use, it's something we should work on by improving the UI. But when I remember Twilight Render, it has a ton more options and features than Rayscaper. Is that not the case?
I am still struggling a little with is setting the scene in SketchUp so that it will produce the view I want in the render.
@ntxdave Can you clarify so I understand better and see how we can improve this?
You should be able to match the exact view you have in SketchUp in Rayscaper:
@ntxdave that’s a great first attempt! The windows could use some glass.
@ntxdave I don’t have any outdoor renders, so if you do please share 
most renders were done by @Rich-O-Brien and @majid and they were focusing on interiors.
@ntxdave I’m not familiar with the Skatter plugin from Lindale, but does it not work with Rayscaper?
I assume it would just create component instances and then spread them around according to some brushes. Correct me if I’m wrong.
There's documentation here: https://rayscaper.com/manual/materials/#metal-material - Let me know if you have any feedback.
You can access the documentation via the Help menu:
The most feature-rich material in Rayscaper is the Disney material: https://rayscaper.com/manual/materials/#disney-material-pbr-material. This is a real PBR (physically based rendering) material.
Cheers,
Thomas
@ntxdave said in Rayscaper Sample Model Download:
BTW: Here is the settings I used for the frame which is still not exactly as shinny as I was wanting.
Can you clarify shininess 
From looking at the gray frame, it seems like a perfect mirror.
@Mike-Amos Do you mind sending me that scene again? I would like to investigate why the scaling is off.
Hey @ntxdave ,
It's great to see you are already getting results with Rayscaper!
The metal frame is not quite as shinny as I would like it but
As a first check, make sure you are using the global illumination render method. It's slower than approximate GI, but approximate GI is not photorealistic and doesn't render materials correctly, always favoring speed.
What material are you using for the metal surfaces? The metal material or the Disney material? The roughness slider allows you to control the shininess of either material. The below renders show a chrome ball with three different roughness settings (0, 0.20, and 0.50).
Also, the background is darker that I would like.
You can control that via the environment settings. Either adjust the color (or use an image) or adjust the power.
You can also drag & drop one of the HDRIs to get more realistic lighting:
Does that help?
Cheers,
Thomas
I am going to have a look at that but it seems most of the problems are based around lost settings for colour/texture/material between openings of Rayscaper.
Thanks for reporting. If there are easy-to-reproduce examples, please send them my way. I appreciate the help.
I believe this is nothing serious and only a matter of time. I know you are getting this right mate. Thanks for making this soon to be great program.
I appreciate your support, Mike!
Cheers,
Thomas
@Rich-O-Brien Thanks for fixing.
Recently, the range of exposure values changed, bringing this scene to an exposure of -10, rendering everything dark. Setting it to zero would have fixed this.
Like Rich said, it's still beta software, so there might be quirks.
@ntxdave We only support 2021 or higher. 2020 is not supported.
There’s no time-limited trial, you can use it for free as long as you like but the free version has a small watermark.
Cheers,
Thomas
@Mike-Amos - Something I learned from @Rich-O-Brien. There's a great tool called ShareX (https://getsharex.com/). You can use it to quickly capture and annotate screenshots. A screenshots with an arrow, circle or other annotation immediately helps me understand what the problem is. Text is harder for me to dissect issues with Rayscaper.
Cheers,
Thomas
No, does not reproduce, random over several renders.
That sucks, will keep an eye out for this.
Ghost textures, where the same texture is apparent more than once in the materials list. Ghost white is a colour I use exclusively for glass. If as in this instance, the light fitting is imported, the material is listed twice or more and treated as a seperate instance. Only one of which had a glass setting.
Could you send the latest iteration of your scene? It will help me better understand why the material is listed twice.
2a. I believe this is a bug where imported models have the same material as the main model. The model (Light) itself is probably unrealistic so I will adjust and try again.
I'm not following on this one, can you provide a small test scene? Or instructions to reproduce so I can understand the expected behavior?
As I thought, the scene as opened is a blank canvas. All mats are 100% opaque and no emiters.
Apologies, but not following which scene you are talking about.
There are lines here not apparent in the render window, geometry?
Which lines in the model, I have it open here but I'm not sure I understand:
I shut the render window because I cannot minimise it without minimising Sketchup first, it would be nice to be able to minimise Rayscaper independantly.
Is this the behavior you are referring to?
If so, yes that is annoying and is new to me. I will put it on my list.
Hey @Mike-Amos
Some screenshots would be helpful to follow along!
Weird this, one spotlight and one directional light along with the fake emitter surface.
I ramped up the directional light alone to 100.00 watts. OK, distance that this illumination appears at needs adjusting. I then reduce the power levels to zero watts and the illumination does not change. I will close Rayscaper and open it again, see what happens.
Mike, can you reproduce this consistently? If so, I'd like to check it out with your scene on my computer.
OK, part of the reasons for a simple black screen rather than a render is that for some reason, there were TWO 'ghost white' textures/colours imported. Only one of which had any reference to 'glass'.
Do you mind posting a screenshot of what you mean by ghost textures?
OK, the properties assigned to materials etc in Rayscaper are not surviving shutdown and restart on this pc. Memory? 32gig and a decent graphics card suggests not.
I wouldn't blame your PC Rayscaper is still beta, so bugs are possible!
As @Rich-O-Brien pointed out, there is some odd behavior with lights. He reported it earlier, and requires a fix. Lights should behave better on CPU, but yeah wait times are a lot longer...
Tried again. Rendered but took 17m 31 for this.
Is this @Rich-O-Brien 's scene or yours? Do you mind mailing me the scene thomas@rayscaper.com?
Cheers,
Thomas
@ntxdave I think the original links got broken with the forum upgrade. I also updated the link now on my website. Thanks, for reporting!
Welcome to the club! It looks indeed like the link is broken; thanks for reporting. Must have been the forum upgrade?
Here is the file: https://community.sketchucation.com/uploads/imported_attachments/RziO_rs_shader_ball-scenev2020.skp
And here is the original post from @Rich-O-Brien where he shares the file: https://community.sketchucation.com/post/1603104
Cheers,
Thomas
