Thanks guys, it was not a problem until recently and I am certain something has changed, this is a problem only with v 2016 rather than prior versions. Something I should have mentioned. BTW, these 'arcs' are several feet across.

Thanks mate, I am using Renditioner which does not work in sketchup 2015 where there is already a problem with memory. Sometimes it will open in v14 and sometimes not but I will try for a few more views.

I dropped the shell by 1.75 inches and the suspension attachment bars by 3 inches which will allow the body to achieve the lower centre of gravity mentioned above. Some of the frame is in as are the disc brakes which will come from a street bike. The actual suspension hydraulic units will also come from a street bike but are not attached yet. [image: Fteo_10.jpg]

Looking great, Mr. Amos.

Thanks Bryan.

My mum learned to bake on that kind of range as a girl but was evacuated out of London when the bombing started. It was only used off and on after ww2 due to being so blinking cranky. The range would have been original fitting in the 1870's onwards. I am trying to scale the component I have made from the plan and sketchup basically say's, 'Not today thanks'. More bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. Thanks for the kind words PB.

@tig said: BUT if the intersection with a Line results in an Arc that is effectively swept through 360º - so that its start vertex is at the same point as its end vertex... then later on you will get a BugSplat when trying to change the segments in Entity Info That's exactly what I was doing (a line from 0,0,0 out some distance equal to the desired radius following by moving to that point to start the circle, finishing it at 0,0,0 again). Only then, huh? Wow... that's an odd one.

Finished the windows update session and the 'problem' appears to have gone. Weirder than politics.

Cheers Bryan, PB.

@box said: Has that fixed your Guide problem too? The guide problem was before I inserted any cameras. Come to think of it, that issue has not bothered me in a while. I think since I packed all the levels of the building back into the shell, that problem is solved due to everything being more localized. But I wouldn't think 800 feet should be too far. I will confirm that theory and report in the guide visibility thread.

Are you going to show us other views? Would love to see them.

Thanks mate, I would like to fix the windscreen but that looks unlikely now.

The render program is renditoner V3 pro and the water is a pre-set finish with light set for a cloudy day, also a pre-set level. Thanks for the kind words, appreciated.

Thanks Rob, yes, I have acquired Maxwell V3 and Twilight V2 for that and other reasons. I just have to get used to their methods.

Cheers John, getting some good textures helps a lot, limited otherwise.

Never mind, for some reason I am now able to log in. I did reset my password to the same one but I am up and running now, thanks for going through this with me.

My mistake, there is no f in update.

Thanks Rich.

Thanks for the clarification Richard. Gareth, sorry I missed your intent, I hope I have not come across as rude and apologise if that is the case. I have spent a lot of my time in very small rooms and the op was for a small residence for a post graduate living in their own space, possibly for the first time purchase. The second series is a study in the 10m2 student accommodation that I was looking at being proposed in Sweden I think. They had the shower above the toilet and I remember being appalled at the thought of having a shower while sitting on the loo. It came across as plain nasty to me. I also wanted an illusion of space which is why I ended up breaking the bathroom facilities into room regions instead of having the three s's in a separate room. The kitchen is still downstairs in the both versions, next to the beer cooler.