@mike lucey said: But again we are not captive in any way as the door is wide open to walk through if the desire is there. Is not just that simple... All of sketchUp users had some strong reasons to go with SketchUp in the first place. And most of us did this because SU is DIFFERENT, and by different I say easy to learn, easy to use, not cluttered ... so you can do your thing fast and easy, with no need of hundreds of toolbars, scrolling menus, buttons, extensive learning... and why not, a very nice interface... unconventional icons (why so serious?). And all this encouraged a "think out of the box" community... original people turned to it, not that generation of AutoCAD users that were so stiff. And also... neither the "3SD users", who are so "fancy and sophisticated" (ok, now I was mean, but I'm sure you understand my point). So, if SU will cease to be what it has been, I'm starting to think where it will go? Ok, you are saying that if I won't like it, I am free to go... And probably I will... to SU8 again . But that's not the point here. The point is that WE ARE A STRONG COMMUNITY and despite the fact that Trimble bought Sketchup, Sketchup is still ours. Without us, the users, Trimble may very well whash their hair with SU... so to speak. So, first of all, Trimble shall listen of what users want/need. Because, believe or not, the users know best (because they are using it). All we can hope is that Trimble will eventually understand this and will go in the right direction.

Are you by any chance using Google apps with that domain? If so, try to log in with a "simple" gmail account instead.

@jim said: I could make a little plugin that uses VisualBasic Script to open the Save As dialog and select version 7. It would at least take some of the tedium out of it. (I'm already testing it. Windows-only, I'm afraid.) Is this possible with 2013? I'm getting a 2013 version, but my co workers use v.8.0 pro. I'm afraid they won't be able to open it. I hope the developers will consider this option.. like in AutoCAD, you can set what default version to save as.

[quote="Dave R"]Paul, this isn't a bug with SketchUp 2013 so I moved it into SketchUp Discussions. Thanks for that Dave. Just back from dodging raindrops in the New Forest. I will sort this out, many thanks for your response. Best regards. Paul

@swingman said: Besides SpaceNavigator being a no show, 2013 Pro will neither print,nor export textures on my Win7 laptop. All I get is line drawings. I may be missing a simple configuration, but have both Pro 8 and Pro 2013 installed and can find no difference in configuration between the two ... Pro 8 continues to perform/print/export as it always has. What am I missing? Problem identified, but not solved. It is an OpenGL problem/BUG with SketchUp2013 Pro. Turn off "Hardware Acceleration" in Preferences in 2013Pro and the behavior, as described above, becomes normal; IOW, with Hardware Acceleration OFF, both printing and export work with regard to visibility of materials, colors and textures contained in the model. Once again, I have two installations of SketchUp, Pro8 and 2013 Pro on the same machine. Pro8 does NOT exhibit this OpenGL problem/bug/behavior on the same machine. I can visualize a few reasons for this (dual installation with conflicting registry info for starters; a driver issue, or is it just a BUG in 2013's implementaion??) Whatever the reason, SketchUp 2013 is a total bust for me thus far. Apparently, it is time to test the efficacy of Trimble's $95 support scheme. OS: Win 7 64-bit Dell XPS 15 Display Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M (driver 9.18.13.697 10/2/12) Any suggestions welcomed. Thanks! Did fill out a bug report on Trimble's site link in the Bug report sticky on this forum. Edit: Updated to nVidia's latest driver, to no avail.

I haven't written something like that. So far I only take care and add switches for the differences ( String.[], methods["method_name"] || methods[:method_name], …)

Thanks, I've looked at Shadow Projector briefly but I don' think it creates a polygon of the shadow area. I need to select this to fill it with an AutoCAD hatch or solid fill with grey. When I export from Adobe Illustrator as a dxf I can easily select this in AutoCAD and hatch it. It's just a rather cumbersome process and I don't have Adobe Illustrator on my home PC.

Yes it si, thank u Tim, and thank u Chris

It shouldn't be any in the Plugins folder anyway.

Of course you can share the output freely. "Sell, rent, lease or lend" means for profit; money or other exchange of goods. So if you are a spaceship designer and wish to boast with your renders in the gallery section, please, continue doing so.

@chedda said: I'm English ! Lol I guess this should be in the plugin section. I'm literally crying with laughter! and poopy time?!!! ages 3+?!! WHAAAAAAAA? What is going on in the world?!

@chris fullmer said: Hi Gerrit, double clicking on the left side ...... Thank you Chris. Once the toolbar showed up (top left underneath first current toolbar) I had no problem to (double)click > pull it > dock it at my favorite location below the modeling area. My problem was to find it. Once you know...., well, not likely that I'll ask this question again. Thank you and I hope you can find how to overcome the 'hide and seek'-toolbar bug.

Thanks TIG, I had no idea, overall SU is so much more user friendly: in Acad and Vectorworks if something like this happens a reinstall is the norm.

@tig said: AND if you did have to give your SKP models to 3rd parties... and your were of a devious disposition... then you might use 'save_as' into a v8 [or even v7] SKP - taking it back when there was no restriction on 'commercial use' - and now the there is no objection or [probable] 'traceability' of the original SKP version in that copy... Im thinking that Trimble might soon disable the ability to save in lower versions (free versions) especially if new functionalities are introduced in future updates. This will then give the Pro subscribers advantage over the SU free users. -another way of making free versions obsolete. Not that I dont want to subscribe to pro for my own personal freelance work,but until I see a difference in functionality in the SUv8 and SU2013 (apart from the import export formats, and Layout which I dont use at all) I wouldnt mind going back to my SU v8 with the useful 3rd party plugins Ive always been using. Then I will uninstall SU 2013 altogether if my conscience has to hunt me about the terms and condition I agreed with.

3DMax has in it's subscription tools a sketchup tool. I don't know which direction it goes but it may handle this task. otherwise check this thread out. http://forums.cgarchitect.com/62917-best-way-go-3ds-max-sketchup.html @unknownuser said: From Max though I had to make sure that any detail was removed from my modelling, any object stacks were colapsed to an editable mesh (poly was okay but SU liked mesh better) and all materials were Standard Max materials with just basic colour (no maps). I think that's how we went about it. It was a while ago.

I use export2d plugin for this kind of thing....one of the plugins that actually works quite well and makes backgrounds transparent in png. Good graphics outputs to date....so real pleased with it

No fair! I just blew beer all over my keyboard.

Well you're doing very well... It's a good drawing. I don't know who or what this is for so just take this as you need it; One thing I've begun to add to most of my plans is 3D shots. Either in black and white or color. For instance, the bathroom elevation at the bottom could be moved over and a 3D shot could be placed there of the interior. Perhaps from the entry looking in. It adds some punch to the drawing.

Glad that helps. By the way, if you haven't done it yet, install the Sketchucation PluginStore plugin and then auto-install Recurve and the other plugins you'll wind up with eventually.

Another issue. Due to the new pricing system I miss the yearly fee to our developers, which allows Trimble to set up the extension site with foreign Plugins. Without these Sketchup is a bit useless in commercial work. Maybe 50% of the upgrade price should be enough The new Extensin site is a good idea, but is basicly done by others and just a collection, rather than a new upgrade achievement.