Oh non! Just a bugsplash report on Mac in certain conditions (trace three identical lines at three different points) and offer help to debug the toolbar unit switch on Mac if still needed. Encore un probleme sur Mac, mais pas trop grave. Ca marche mais quand je trace la ligne trois fois de suite a trois endroits differents ca plante tout SU. Je regarderai ca, mais pas sur que je trouve pourquoi. Je te tiendrai au courant. Sinon effectivement l'ancien unit toolbar n'a jamais fonctionne correctement, la nouvelle je n'ai pas essaye pour le moment, mais si ca ne marche pas j'essayerai de trouver pourquoi. Michael

Hi, I thinks it's really generous of you to do this type of promotion. thanks john

It was really strange. I would shutdown SU restart it, build a simple cube and every element was not valid. Today I did it again but clicked on the red X (reset?) and now the plugin works. I'm not sure what was wrong, or how the plugin would retain the error over several restarts. Anyway, It seems now that I'm good to go.

If your surface can be made into Quads compatible with QuadFace Tools - you can use its UV mapping features: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=39442 Can you provide more info about your surface? How you generate them for instance? (Fredo's Curviloft let you generate QuadFace Tools compatible quads. So does some of TIGs plugins.) Screenshots or sample models of what you are dealing with will help us provide a good answer.

Thank you.

This isn't Sketchup's doing. The 'sort' algorithm in Ruby does a straightforward alphanumeric sort of the 'words'. It depends on ASCII code numbers etc... So punctuation (! # etc), then numbers , then some punctuation (<> etc), then uppercase letters, then some other punctuation ([] etc) and then lowercase letters etc. Paste this in the Ruby Console to see what I mean: ["zebra","Zebra2","456","123","ABC","[xyz]","[abc]","abc","<abc>","#1"].sort The 'bracketry' around the material names is to do with how they have been created/imported etc - read the Help section on this... You could use the 'display_name' [what's show in the Materials Browser] in the sorted list and then have a 'look up table' that uses the materials' 'display_name' against the actual Sketchup 'name'... BUT that some extra coding that RickW needs to do to his script. Why not PM Rick and explain the issues... Windowizer4 is a 'commercial script' - therefore posting too much of its code is 'not on' - I even worried about that one line tweak a gave you !

@tig said: There's already a tool to change units 'on the fly' by a simple toolbar button press. Toggle Units v2.11 by Matt666 http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=81391#p81391 You click the appropriate button to change the SKP's units, you can also change 'accuracy' +/- etc Thereafter the model's displayed units are as you last set them. There's also an option to choose which of all of the possible unit toggles go onto the toolbar... I will definitely check that out. Thanks a lot!

Well, that pretty well answers the question, then. Now you have the solution but if you choose not to put those lines in another context, you'll be stuck with them unhiding whenever you use Unhide>All. Smooth will make them disappear but it isn't the same as hiding them.

Thanks guys, You pointed me to my error, which were elsewhere in the code. Solved !

hi Dave, yes, actually i always have them in the data drive. access them and uses them anytime. i already have the M2 version downloaded, but not installed yet. just a personal habit of wait and see probably.

thanks, didier. I‘d better let the podium crew know this is happening.

Thoroughly better than the new Mission Impossible movie, even at imax, put it that way.

@richardcherry said: There is a plug-in for Blender 3D that does what you are requesting. You could use it and import it into SketchUp. Yeah, I saw the blender plugin and it is very much like what I mean, only I don't like the results The columns are very crude, and I think it will be easier to start over than to try adding detail to it in SU... @unknownuser said: I think maybe you had better supply examples of the various types of bases, columns and capitals. My imagination isn't as good as yours apparently. There are many variations. That's why such a plugin would be helpful, in stead of re-drawing the complete column. A base, for example, can have one or two or even three "tori" (a rounded edge) of different heights. A shaft can have none, 20 or 24 flutes and the ribs between them can be "pointy" ("C" on the pic, mostly used for Doric columns) or "flat" ("F" on the pic, mostly used for Ionic and Corinthian columns). The fluting can start at the bottom of the shaft or higher up, it can also be filled with a round band. The proportion between the diameter and the height of the column can vary. Etc. etc. etc. [image: U7wz_bases.jpg] [image: r9QO_flutes.jpg] [image: W2yc_orders.jpg]

Should this be in the 'Plugins' section?

Another one with some examples: http://www.renderplus.com/wk/RPS_3D_PDF_w.htm I have never tried to make a 3D PDF, but I am interested in some experiences...

It appears under the right-click context-menu, but only IF you have at least one group or component-instance selected...

Hi John, thanks, yes it was part of an installer package (result of promiscuous approach to installing untried plugins!). I uninstalled all plugins and reloaded them one-by-one, but never found the bug, although it might've been product connect. Now I've got just the plugins I need...and no more. I've also set up a manual entry .txt file in the plugins folder to keep track of installed plugins and their dependency files.

You might find a lot of your questions are answered by reading the text where you download the plugins. For example, on the page where you downloaded Soap Skin Bubble you would find "Releas 1.0.12 works until of 10. April 2012 !" [sic] which is exactly what the text box shows when you open the plugin.

@john2 said: well this plugin reverses my materials too i have to reapply materials [too much time wasted] on the white face that faces me now. Fix the face orientation before you apply materials, not after. If you did that you wouldn't be wasting time. Keep up with the face orientation from the beginning so you don't have to fix things later. Don't be a sloppy modeler and you won't have a lot of the problems you seem to be having according to your questions.

D, thats ok because you've done enough for several life times. I was just curious. No biggy.