Hi Joseph,

I guess this is not SU specific but happens with some computers only. Maybe due to some firewall or security settings? I cannot troubleshoot it right now because it works perfectly on my PC (using SU 7.1 Pro as well) but I have read several reports on this and I know the development team is aware of the problem (I myself have reported it several times already).

Thanks for your replies
The freeware Sketchup works fine, I don't have a problem with it at all. It is getting easier and easier to work with and I'm learning as well. Great program.
And this guy on uTube monsterz3r0, deserves a medal. Really got me on the right path.

But I export my drawings into Pepakura so I can make fabric patterns. I have tried wabe, but it didn't work well, but that was a year ago, so could perhaps give it ago again.

Anyway, Pepakura doesn't like the upgrade at all to the latest version of sketchup and when I import a supported .kmz file into it. It really spits the dummy. Every face is duplicated, so you essentially end up with 2 of everything. Makes it very very hard to join pieces together.
Pepakura is a bit of a skill anyway, as it does have a tendancy to fracture blocks of faces as well, but thats probably my drawing skills.

I'm really just kicking myself, that for some insane reason, I didn't keep a previous version of sketchup on file - versions of both that are going to collaborate together.
I guess Pepakura doesn't have the same kind of army working behind it that sketchup does and I will be waiting a while for catchup to occur on Pepakuras side.
What I need is the initial skip to version 7, the most recent once certainly won't come to the party, and it does make life difficult that Google doesn't keep available previous versions should software hiccups occur. Which is kind of ironic, since it does boast supporting a couple of formats. But I forget, thems Google ones anyway.

The good news is that drawing are progressing well, cept for the shoulder pads of the astronaut, but I will beat him into submission sooner or later . Well it won't be happening again. I sharnt be so trusting in the future.
Cheers
Jan

Nope. I usually turn it off since it greatly slows down my old PC. So I guess I'll just turn it on when exporting 2d images.
Thanks for the suggestions!

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Hi Ray,

Does it do it in any model of yours? Like when you start a new one for instance?
I am wondering if there is not a clipping plane somewhere. What is your FOV set to in that model? (Select the Zoom tol and press the shift button and start dragging it up and down on the screen with the left mouse button pressed). Also what if you toggle between perspective and parallel projections?

Ok, it's working now. I actually didn't reset my workspace, but install the latest version of sketchup, which I think reset my workspace automatically. Thanks Gai.

You are correct, the camera moves dramatically. However once you select a field of view you can always move the camera back to where you wanted it in the first place, but this is an irritating glitch.

It works OK for me, BUT don't tick 'model-extents'... and under 'properties' set your page orientation to landscape ?

@kiddieboy12 said:

Life is all good!!
install C++ redistribute 2005 sp1
and C++ redistribute 2008 SP1
and you should be able to install, please close.

Hello. I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner; things were very busy getting our last release out the door over the holidays.

I am glad you found a solution to your problem. Installing the VS 2005 SP1 redistributable is what I would have suggested if I had been able to respond in time.

The part I find curious is that you also installed the 2008 redistributable. SketchUp is built in Visual Studio 2005 and therefore, that's the version of the redistributable package you need to install. Did you install 2008 for fun, because you needed it for another application, or because you thought SketchUp needed it?

I'd really like to know because I can't think of any circumstances under which you would have needed 2008 for SketchUp to function, so if you did, I need to investigate it more closely.

Thanks,

Andrew

When I look at Anssi's posted image, the component on the right is flipped, but the orientation of the section arrows aren't. Isn't this the indication of the reversed section's direction. Shouldn't the flipped component arrows point the other way. Btw, my ignorance is probably the result of not working with sections at all. Maybe I don't understand the question:-(

Thanks for the speedy response Gaieus, I shall give that a go 👍

So you are saying, Tomasz, that you are not such a novice to unintentionally purge your layers. 😒
Hm... It seems that scripters do this via ruby.
🤣

Hi Kriss,

Is it not the same bug as here?
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23925

I could also reproduce it eventually but not with Paste in place.

This is related to the problem of doing a save_as on a component, and giving it different names - it will appear under its original name in the second component browser pane [therefore there could be several variants with the same name displayed there] but it'll kick into it's file name if loaded into the main pane !
I at first thought that it was the externally saved model 'component' title and name being different - but if you manually change the external files 'name' to its 'title' it doesn't help.
The instance.definition.path returns the correct file path so it's not muddled there...
Seems that there's something saved in a model's data that confuses the import into thinking its the same definition[s]...
If you edit the table's groups after it's saved externally it'll then import with the right textured top and rails etc BUT the legs won't change as 'leg' already exists from the first table now in the model, so the import still uses that ! Solution ought to be to rename 'leg' as 'leg2' in the second table's skp file, but it's not going to work as SUp still imports the second table's leg as 'leg' even when it's not called that any more in that external skp !!! Super-confused mess...
I think it's also tied into the weirdness where a group definition can have more than one instance - it can't theoretically and the group.make_unique even gives a deprecated method warning BUT it is needed to ensure a copied group that is changed doesn't affect its 'original' sibling...
Of course the way to 'fool it' is to make the table out of groups/components with no materials and then apply the material to the component instance! But then UV mapping is a messy business one at a time...
It is 'against nature' [ 😠 ] to have an app that lets you export variants of a component with different materials and later import them back into a new model but somehow muddle up their identities to such an extent that you can't trust which it is... 😒 😕 👊

@andrews said:

Next time this happens, when you fill out the Bug Splat report, put in some sort of keyword ...

I think I did, did I not do both?

My post here IS the followup.

In each of the 4 explaination(s) in the Bug Splat! reports, I wrote almost identical notes (but the receiver of the ".isatty" method changes per the list at the top of this thread.):
@unknownuser said:

Ruby Console:
$stdin.isatty
--> BUG SPLAT!
So take your pick, try searching on ".isatty"

Not that important anyway.

Interesting that $stdout and $stderr raise "NoMethodError: undefined method `isatty'"

The Sketchup::Console class needs a major overhaul.
We need to be able to use STDIN, STDOUT and STDERR to implement our own Console Applets / Debuggers, or integrate with thrid-party Ruby IDEs.
There is a glaring 'perfect' space for controlling such a feature on the 'Applications' page of the 'Preferences' dialog.

Well, unfortunately I am not a kmz master myself and additionally, Google keeps changing its conversion convention all the time. This last (SU 7.1) change was actually very significant and a lot of things has changed (which keeps the whole world amazed).

I can ask however.

I'm currently having similar problems after I updated the graphics driver on my laptop: ati radeon xpress series. Whenever I select a face, it is completely blue, instead of blue dots. this does not occur when I turn hardware rendering off.

The same problem and worse happens to a class I was teaching with nvidia cards in their laptops! They were also having trouble selecting faces when they were at an angle to the viewport.

Hi everyone, i had the same problem, with google sketchup 7, free version, i downloaded one week ago, (7.0.11018) i had the APPCRASH problem, with the same secure32.dll i dont understand that type of information, i didnt knew how to solved that. But what i know is that one week ago, i formatted mi cpu, and before that, i had GU installed, and i was working perfectly with it, even thought my computer wasnt in good conditions, so thats why i formatted it. But then i download the GU7, and it doesnt work, i try to download a NET framework, and that isnt the problem, what i thought, is that before i formatted, i hasnt have the NORTON INTERNET SECURITY CENTER, but after the format, it comes by default, so i erase it, and bingo! my sketchup is working fine... Norton always make thins so complicated.!

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I want add the pic where it appears the norton, in the add/remove programs, but i dont know how to do it. so you can see the norton that i had! or maybe isnt neccesary! you are smarter guys...

hope this norton things can solve the problem for all you...

Cheers for the tip khaver 👍

Hi,
The same problem occurs when I try to scroll up the plugins toolbar. I may be ever so careful with the arrow, but it happens anyway.

Karlheinz

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That's interesting Thomas - you've made me check what could be wrong and I've found that I've had a fault in my template - I've now created a new template (I have my company logo as a watermark) and it now works!! Also guides now act correctly.

I can now email the files as well so it appears I had a glitch when creating my template - all is well 😄

I apologise for speaking badly of the program.

cheers
john