I'm not ruby programmer but some installers require you a specific directory. May be the loader expects to find some things on a specific placement. As you know we can get several user accounts with the same directory structure and SU will search for plugins in a determinate order (I read it somewhere). I'm not sure but it could be in the plugins folder inside SU application, then the general library, shared library, user library, and so on. I just collected all of them in my user account/library/application support/GoogleSketchup 7/Sketchup/plugins. All excepting those that are using an installer but probably most of them would work the same. Finally, I don't understand why some rubys needs another location to work. Some problems may need file permissions verification (I tried all possibilities with pipping plugin without success.

I have decided this is not an issue. It is only relevant for people who are re-loading a plugin for testing. A typical plugin does not even need menu guards at since it only gets required once anyway.

Simply exporting them to file - say 'myshortcuts.dat' makes a list as a text file thus. [Accelerators] Count=64 0 0 0 Space selectSelectionTool: 0 0 0 L selectLineTool: 0 0 0 E selectEraseTool: 0 0 0 C selectCircleTool: 0 0 0 A selectArcTool: 0 0 0 M selectMoveTool: ... The 0 0 0 fields represents modifier keys Ctrl/Alt/Shift, so 0 0 0 H editHide: 0 0 1 H Edit/Unhide/All ###shift This is used to Import your setting in the Preferences window. To ensure that they over-write any pre-existing ones you really need to edit the Windows Registry [ - be verycareful!]... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\Sketchup7\Settings Num_Shortcuts = REG_DWORD = 64 [or total of list length] Shortcut_1 = REG_SZ = "0 0 0 Space selectSelectionTool:" Shortcut_2 = REG_SZ = "0 0 0 L selectLineTool:" etc... You would 'empty' the 'Settings' prior to re-importing new ones ? Don't try this unless you know what you are doing... else= If you did then you could [with SUp closed] use a batch file to clear the Registry's '...\Settings' entries and then use those saved in the 'myshortcuts.dat' etc to remake those entries to suit... An alternative way to get a list of shortcuts is using the Ruby Console command: myshortcuts_array=Sketchup.get_shortcuts which returns an array of tab delimited shortcuts - e.g. ["Ctrl+A\tEdit/Select All", "Ctrl+C\tEdit/Copy", ...] You could manipulate each entry in that array and puts it into an external file [ myshortcuts_file="...\\myshortcuts.dat" ?] - this is equivalent to Exporting your current shortcut settings from Preferences - e.g. "Ctrl+A\tEdit/Select All" >>becomes***>> "1 0 0 A Edit/Select All" ###becomes 'simplied' - the testing and pattern matching is 'cod' here == it's NOT real code ! text=myshortcuts_array[i] ctrl = "1 " if text.includes "Ctrl" else ctrl = "0 " alt = "1 " if text.includes "Alt" else alt = "0 " shift = "1 " if text.includes "Shift" else shift = "0 " key = text.split("+")[1].split("\t")[0] command = " " + text.split("+")[1].split("\t")[1] line = ctrl+alt+shift+key+command myshortcuts_file.puts(line) ### You could make the script auto-run on close and always keep a list of your current shortcuts ? You could then reimport them as desired using Preferences/Import or using a Registry batch-file lash-up... Hope there're a few ideas there...

Check out Firebug lite. http://getfirebug.com/lite.html It works for IE and Safari. All you have to do to debug your Webdialogs is add this line to your HTML: <script type='text/javascript' src='http://getfirebug.com/releases/lite/1.2/firebug-lite-compressed.js'></script>

http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=15585

I have also noticed a problem with SelectAtStartup when launching SU - it works, but is apparently overwritten by something either internal to SU or another ruby (haven't tested it yet). However, it still works when opening a file or starting a new model.

@dean arnold said: Looking for a routine to extract "Entity Info" "such as "Face" "Area" for all entities from a "Layer" of a SketchUp model into a csv, xls or any other file type - an "Entity Info" dump. Some method whereby the numeric and alpha data from a SketchUp model could be imported into a spreadsheet for further analysis. Any information will be a help. I use the free version of SketchUp. I am new to Ruby, but I understand a Ruby Plugin may be a method to accomplish this extraction. Look for ComponentReporter++.rb - this has several examples...

hm.. that's interesting. Haven't paid much attention to HTML5 the last few months. @martinrinehart said: But we wander. Back to my original question.. Ah, yea. The topic! Sorry, I often stray away and webdev is one of my major interests so I stray even quicker and further when that topic is even remotely related. @martinrinehart said: As browsers are more predictable in standards mode than quirks mode, Ruby-generated HTML should include a doctype and should be valid for its doctype. Agree. Since webdialogs must run under the webkit engine and IE the best chance for platform compatibility is following the W3C standards. When I make webdialogs I do the same as I do when I develop websites. I code to the standards, then to account for IE notoriously bad handling of the standards I add some conditional comments that adds CSS and JS fixes. Most of the time visual quirks in IE is by triggering hasLayout For better legibility and re-usability, separate CSS and JS their own respective files. Using HTML validators to detect correct markup is very important. Once a document is invalid there's no way to predict how the different rendering engines will recover and you can not expect cross platform compatibility. I'm starting to realise that there hasn't been posted any recommendations of best practices when it comes to webdialogs. Coming from a webdesign background I haven't given it much thought.

Did you try to use PolygonMesh?

Thank you! I tested it.As what you say ,when sketchup initialize , my rb files can add themself to the same submenu.

I like that too Martin, thanks! Good to see you around the forums again, Chris

Nope, that is not possible in SU at this point, and I've never heard of any plan to implement it. Chris

Thanks for good explanation. I see, I told not clearly, to type the only one script line in the ruby console.

Hi Laura, Applying a transformation to geometry is available for groups and components. If your user rectangle is not a group or component, you'll have to retrieve what the user did exactly (translation, rotation) with its rectangle. That's not simple IMHO. If at first you make a group with the rectangle, then let the user translate/rotate it, it's really easy to draw openings in the rectangle because you can retrieve the group transformation and then draw your openings at origin and then apply the transformation to them, or each time you calculate a point of an opening boundary, apply the transformation to it: # Create the group; group=Sketchup.active_model.entities.add_group() # Draw the user rectangle here and let him translate/rotate it ... # get the group transformation; trans=group.transformation # Apply the transformation to a point of an opening; point.transform!(trans) # Explode the group if neede at the end of the draw; group.explode Hope this helps,

Yes, this is very simple. You can probably do it more complicated, like doing any number of sections on any 3d shape and the division of each section at the same time, choosing the degrees, etc. Or may be pie charts from xml or tabulated text document...

Thanks all. I need to rethink this before asking people to venture further down a blind alley. I can reduce a Sketchup up model to two plain text lists. One lists components and groups and the other lists scenes. Both lists are turned into javascript multi-level arrays. But I don't want to wipe out any established relationships between components and layers, layers and scenes, scenes and styles and scenes and property settings. I thought I could do that by manipulating the model but I am thinking it is probably better to capture the data and regenerate the whole thing. If you are interested in why I want to do this please see the discussion in the Modelur thread. Thanks and regards Chris

thanks for the quick replies. after reading the articles, I tried to use a selection observer, but there seems to be some "gotchas" with it. for example, if you manually select something, it won't trigger the "onSelectionAdd" event, but if it is automatically selected, then it will. any ideas?

@unknownuser said: take a look at http://www.rubyinside.com/how-to-create-a-ruby-extension-in-c-in-under-5-minutes-100.html I am on completely unknown territory and have stopped on the 'make' command. I presume it is the command responsible for compiling the C code with the makefile created in a previous step. I would like to recreate the MyTest in VC++ 2008 Express Edition... and I am lost. I will dig through internet to understand the whole process, but if someone can explain me in few words how to compile the example with VC++2008 will be thankful. Tomasz

Though, for these border cases, I have found that restarting SU help. Probably frees up a little extra memory. And some times I have more luck by exporting to BMP. I assume BMP works better because it's uncompressed so less processing is required.

I might have to reconsider my latest version of Selections Toys that add Select Deselect menu items for each layer in the model... Or at least put a cap limit to it for those models that contains an obscene amount of layers.