@quantj said: Do you use Podium (for sketchup rendering) by any chance, I use to have a problem with the old version (SU that if I left Podium Manager open, it would cancel any auto-save or save but I wouldn't know, so I'd save like usual but next time I opened it, it was the old model prior to me opening Podium Manager. No, I do not use podium. This is probably one of those things that "computers" just do.

jerry, if you do a lot of wood textures on curved surfaces you might want to download the Fredo Tools plugin. in the package is ThruPaint it makes orienting wood grain on curves a lot easier than with the native tool. chuck.

I have it here - Win 7 64, Su Pro 2014 - with no issues. Did you use the SketchUcation PluginStore for installing it? The latest version there is 2.0.2

As far as 1001bit goes, it may be set to pop up that message even if there've been no changes to its toolbar. I don't use it so I don't know for sure.

Most dogs, including mine, do not have the slightest idea that they are any different from us. Looks like it passes the test!! That was my plan also was to make a side table. Oh well, nice job on the design though. Tell your brother good job on the construction too. Now wonder it looks so good... [image: 6kB2_084.JPG]

Maybe try google chrome or firefox to see if they give you the connection you need then sign in with new google account.

Try clearing the cache of internet explorer and make sure you have the most up to date version and that it isn't blocked. It doesn't matter what browser you use normally, SU uses IE to access the internet.

@jerrymich said: So, the new sketchup plugins folder should be empty? Not quite empty. There are some plugins whose names start with "su" that should be in there. They are packed with SketchUp. If you delete the folder altogether or empty it, SketchUp will repopulate it with those plugins the next time it starts. Bear in mind, this Plugins folder is the one under User/AppData... that's the only Plugins folder you should be messing with. If you let the Sketchucation Plugin Store and Extension Warehouse handle installing plugins, you shouldn't really have any need to go to that folder directly.

The best thing to do is install the Sketchucation Plugin store which you can do without even knowing where the plugin folder is. Download it from the link at the top of the page and install it using Window/Preferences/Install Extension Then once you have that you can download all your plugins fresh and updated. There is even an addon to the plugin tool (easily auto installed via the tool itself) that will open your plugin folder for you. The other main option is to use the Extensions Warehouse which you will find within Sketchup, Window/Extension Warehouse. Once you get going with those any manual installs you might want to do you can do by clicking the Open Plugins Folder from the Sketchucation submenu. It is strongly recommended that you install new plugins rather than copying your old ones across.

You weren't holding your tongue in the right position. [image: jjjp_Screenshot-2_10_20147_58_59PM.png]

@db11 said: Thanks for the answer -- I'll download the other one and give it a try. Just realized that it's all one package with two toolbar options... got it!

You could turn on backups along with autosave. doubles used file space though.

that makes sense. Thanks

Jerry, it would be easier if I could see your model. If you don't want to post it, you could send it to me in a PM. Very likely you have cumulative rounding errors.

Jerry, no. I don't make the cutting plane a component. It must be in the same context as the geometry you want it to cut so as to leave a face at the cut surface. If you open one of the components with the cutting plane for editing and select all of the geometry, you should be able to do the Intersect Faces>With Selection thing with no problem.

You are correct, it does create some challenges but is worth it in the end. Who ever said things should be easy?? Thanks for your help

@jerrymich said: I understand now what you are saying about the components being unique. So, if I make a change to one of the unique components, it will NOT make it on the other unique ones as it normally does on a change to a component. Correct? Yes, essentially. I general, when you make a change to one instance of a component, all other instances get edited which is incredibly powerful when used correctly. Make unique breaks the relationship so the unique component(s) is no longer related to the others. This is also very useful in some cases. @jerrymich said: As a general guideline, is it better to make components as you go and then come back and group the components? Thanks for your help Jerry My approach is to make all the individual parts as components and do the nesting only after the individual parts/components are finished. I see too many incorrectly nest components in models by others. You have some good examples of that in this model. For example, take a look at your "board#18" That component is made of a component called "board#22 and a bunch of loose geometry that looks like a drawer case maybe. I don't use groups for anything. I only make components. Others do use groups but in about 10 years of using SketchUp for woodworking projects I've never found a case where a group makes more sense than a component. You can do as you choose, of course.

Thanks alot. Yes, we have a big family dinner every Sunday evening so we need it!!

Jerry, did this help?

@jerrymich said: I am wanting to extrude (follow me) a cylinder to a sloped wall and wondering how to get the cylinder to project to the sloped surface and not go through the sloped surface. there are a few ways to go about this but for starters, try something like this.. extrude the cylinder far enough for it to go through the surface. select both the cylinder and the slope right-click and choose 'intersect faces -> with selection" then delete the unwanted parts.