Thank you, TIG. Having battled so well SU's limitations in this area, your work-arounds are no doubt old-hat and reflexive to you. I'm still trying to squeeze that turnip, though, and don't want to do as much as you suggest, even if it is the only and/or best way. Drawing extra, otherwise unneeded lines (guides) to place text is just not right, as stupid AND true as that judgment may be.

Thanks, Richard. I was looking for something shy of 11 million results, but so far, not much. Perhaps it's time for me to try my hand.

@unknownuser said: Brooke has rejected all of my ideas out of hand Uh, beg pardon. Regarding your rejection of my rejection, That's out of hand!

I'll keep that in mind, too, but I'm thinking ten to one the ghosts occur around groups / components with bits on displayed layers but with shared faces / edges on other layers not displayed, not '0', and not right. I'll venture that tt's routine isn't aggressive enough to clean up that kind of problem.

Thank you, Rich. I guess I'll go that route since tim says he 'fixed' some other issues. Solo, I'll assume you as well are taken care of.

I updated the driver a few days ago and all is well since then (though the splats had been periodic before, so fingers will remain crossed). On a related issue, it appears the hardware thread fruit is withering on the vine, which is too bad for folks looking for some good input on gearing up to use SU.

@unknownuser said: You have a scene that you like, and you wan to make another identical scene. So you activate the scene you like. Then you create a new scene. That is about as far as I undesrstood. But you're saying something about the new scene does not rememeber layer visibility correctly? How do you mean? The display is correct but is inconsistent with the layer manager settings: layers which are visible in the display are not checked in the manager. @unknownuser said: It will not let you turn check the layer visibility box? No problem with that, I just want the parent layer visibility settings to track to the new scene, as the display does correctly. As I said, I think the layers created 'hidden' are turned off but the display is not adjusted for that and there's the frass. @unknownuser said: Or it forgets what layers you have on or off? Yes, so to speak. It adjusts away from the parent settings but doesn't immediately update the display, and I'm flummoxed when it does that update subsequently. I just want it to stay true to the parent or at the very least display consistent with the settings.

Well, I thought I had tried it before posting. Must have botched it somewhere. Thanks.

@unknownuser said: SU exports are at 72 dpi. If I need a nice crisp drawing, I do the following: In the Export 2D Graphic Dialogue Box, go to Options. Uncheck "Use view size" and set a larger image size. I like my images to be 300 dpi for the most part, so if I want a 10" wide image, I set the width to (300 dpi x 10") = 3000 pixels. Then use photo editing software to reset the size and dpi before you send to your client. This does not work for me. I would think that SU asks to set image size if other than view it might remain at 72 dpi max, though it does seem to export as you input for the view, thereby upping the res for the view, somewhat contrary to the dialog: it is still the view but at a higher res. But then when I import the supposedly higher res image it looks no better, even worse as it is more gray, less black, even after converting to 2 color (black and white, and sharpening). Probably for an attempted line drawing export, anti-alias should be 'off'???

@unknownuser said: By "Both Managers" do you mean Scenes and Styles? Yes. @unknownuser said: The styles manager would be annoying if it warned you everytime a style was changed. I take that update arrow circle thingy as a warning, and then one might even be explicitly warned if that setting is in place.

Thank you, Chris. While I read the main threads and hope to check cgScenes out with your model first, my more immediate needs could, I think, be met by something much simpler. I wish you good luck and will try to stay tuned.

@cortneyrichards said: ...In my case it was the Lisanne Sketchup model. Hope this helps. -Cortney Lisanne is at origin by default and if she was at the extremes of your model, it should be moved to origin after you delete her... john

Thanks, Jean. 3 kites sounds like a lot of fun for the stimulus-needy; with a bigger bird, just one, something similar is called kite sailing. I'd like to see you manage three in a stiff breeze. A sunny day...

@unknownuser said: There are many commands that are only available in 'certain circumstances'... For example to shortcut 'Reverse Face' - if nothing were selected then there's nothing for Preferences > Shortcuts... even with a Filter for 'Reverse'... But, if you first Select a Face, then do Preferences > Shortcuts > Filter 'Reverse' will give you the command [hooray] - set it to say Shift+Q... While you are at it why not set 'Orient' to Alt+Q ? So... if there are commands you'd like to shortcut to then first ensure that the 'context' is set properly before activating Preferences to attempt the Shortcutting... I did think I had the basic context thing in mind. I'm still not with the filter, but will try o keep it in mind. And I will now go in search of prefab shortcut selections, as I know folks with good experience have put them together, acknowledging that one size won't fit all, and that whatever is implemented must be remembered to be a short cut.

I have come to a method which works fairly effectively around the gaping holes (for me) in the native SUfree print-to-scale functions: Working method: zoom extents to page border (after creating same to match desired paper size at chosen scale) set printer as PDFCreator or similar; set paper size to arch E or other as appropriate to get it all on one page, in spite of SU perform print preview at desired scale; use draft quality for quick check proper paging if correct, repeat but set to HDR quality; print to (create) PDF trim white excess surround in result with PDFCropper or similar resulting PDF can be hard printed by Acrobat or other PDF program and is what SUfree should offer or clearly disclaim: print to scale on a chosen paper size