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Quick Comparison -Subd and Artisan

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    cotty
    last edited by 10 Jan 2016, 09:31

    SCF_Cotty_subd15.png

    my SketchUp gallery

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      Whaat
      last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 18:11

      @cuttingedge said:

      plus it retains the material and UV info (haven’t fully tried this though). You will lose all materials in artisan once subdivided.

      Just want to clarify a common misconception about Artisan. You CAN retain materials and UVs in Artisan, you just need to enable that feature in 'Settings'. It is not enabled by default because it results in a performance hit.

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        henyaoi
        last edited by 23 Jan 2016, 20:05

        Hi, everybody. Here's my example with Artisan, texture and UV is retained.


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          alvis
          last edited by 23 Jan 2016, 22:15

          OK. This is my little experience after several hours. Excellent tool. Sorry for the last image


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            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by 23 Jan 2016, 23:02

            Physically plausible

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              alvis
              last edited by 23 Jan 2016, 23:04

              @rich o brien said:

              Physically plausible

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                pbacot
                last edited by 23 Jan 2016, 23:14

                One grand pig! Very fat. Reminds me, I think something from my childhood. A piggy bank that wagged its tail up and down when the coin was put in.

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                  alvis
                  last edited by 23 Jan 2016, 23:17

                  @pbacot said:

                  One grand pig! Very fat. Reminds me, I think something from my childhood. A piggy bank that wagged its tail up and down when the coin was put in.

                  I had to post to another thread. SUbD examples and models.

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                    thomthom
                    last edited by 24 Jan 2016, 04:21

                    Love that pig! 😄

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                      HornOxx
                      last edited by 24 Jan 2016, 07:45

                      @henyaoi said:

                      Hi, everybody. Here's my example with Artisan, texture and UV is retained.

                      Hi, as shown below, I´ve never managed to keep any texture by using Artisan.
                      What is the trick to achieve your result?


                      S v A 01.jpg

                      never trust a skinny cook

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                        cotty
                        last edited by 24 Jan 2016, 08:17

                        artisantexture.png

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                          HornOxx
                          last edited by 24 Jan 2016, 11:58

                          ... and once again AUAAA 😲 thanks Cotty! I am ashamed 😉
                          How could I have overlooked this option?!?!?


                          S v A 02.JPG

                          never trust a skinny cook

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                            derei
                            last edited by 31 Jan 2016, 23:14

                            I think the Coca Cola has the texture distorted... and I am sure is not because of the brand. Pepsi seems fine.
                            What would be the cause?

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 31 Jan 2016, 23:44

                              @yorik1984 said:

                              I think "Coca" and "Pepsi" are same. How do you think?

                              Love it! 😄

                              Would you mind sharing the model? I'm about to look into OpenSubdiv and it might provide some better UV mapping features. That model looks like a nice test model to experiment on.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                yorik1984
                                last edited by 1 Feb 2016, 13:54

                                I make a small test inspired by correspondence on Skype.
                                Not for holy wars just for fun.
                                I think "Coca" and "Pepsi" are same. How do you think?
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                                  yorik1984
                                  last edited by 1 Feb 2016, 13:55

                                  @thomthom said:

                                  Would you mind sharing the model?

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                                    hsrhdrehre5654654
                                    last edited by 2 Feb 2016, 14:47

                                    Also, in my case, i need to use Artisan instead of SubD because with SubD i keep getting invisible "edges touching more than two faces" and it wont let me to subd.

                                    With Artisan, smooth as hell. So i will say that Artisan is more flexible when dealing with geometry. I just needed to discard subd because it was making me to waste even more time, instead of the opposite.. 😛

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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by 2 Feb 2016, 16:19

                                      @hsrhdrehre5654654 said:

                                      Also, in my case, i need to use Artisan instead of SubD because with SubD i keep getting invisible "edges touching more than two faces" and it wont let me to subd.

                                      Got an example model to share?

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        hsrhdrehre5654654
                                        last edited by 2 Feb 2016, 19:39

                                        @thomthom said:

                                        @hsrhdrehre5654654 said:

                                        Also, in my case, i need to use Artisan instead of SubD because with SubD i keep getting invisible "edges touching more than two faces" and it wont let me to subd.

                                        Got an example model to share?

                                        Unfortunately i dont have the model, since i started from scratch again , using Artisan. But i asure you that the cuts were pretty clean (i made sure of it) with no edges between and weird things, and still i was getting that error.

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                                          xiombarg
                                          last edited by 22 Feb 2016, 04:40

                                          A couple of things about each program.

                                          Artisan - Let's you model quick and dirty, or cleanly in quads, without tripping you up in the smoothing process when dealing with n-gons and weird geometry. For models to be kept in SU that do not need to conform to industry standards, this works fine.
                                          The Crease tool has no scale for lighter or softer creases (that I know of). And, it only does one single edge at a time, which can be slow.
                                          Artisan crashes with some frequency, especially in complex models.
                                          The knife tool can be really handy for quick visualization, or when needing to chop geometry that is intended to be rebuilt, BUT it does not restructure anything into quads (which would be freaking stellar if it did).

                                          SubD - In a lot of ways it's actually good that SubD makes you model cleanly (assuming you want professional level models, or models that easily export for other programs), which can be easily checked in your model by subdividing and looking for oddities in the triangulations.
                                          The Crease Tool might be what makes the biggest difference between these two. SubDs tool works quite a bit better than Artisans by allowing you to scale the intensity of your creased edge, which gives an added level of control. It also creases all selected edges at the same time. Very handy when using Quad Face Tools for selecting loops or rings.

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