I would like to make a coment about the price of those renderings. Here where I live, in the most violent city in the planet, people working as a freelance make renderings at the price of $50 US dollars, and those renderings are posted on panoramic advetisings panles. The main reason is, the piracy, a lot of people never would buy or pay a dollar for a good model (trees, furnitures, sky), so they would never pay $1000 US dollars for a legal copy of a fine software. I meet someone in a forum of a NPR rendering software, and I knew some one who call him self freelance, and he uses a Illegal copy of the software, I don't understand how? after geting money from that software (because is a freelance) can't pay for a legal copy?. In most of the forums of rendering software, they allow every body to join, and there at the forums, people who uses ilegal copies, learn how to make good renderings, or found support from the other members at the forums. I don't understand why? Well these are my thoughts.

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Vue, is different as they do not call themselves a render solution, but rather 'Digital nature', which they do well. Only now are they looking into Archvis and creating aproduct for this industry.

@unknownuser said: Through this topic I wish to support those forum members who do their renderings in Artlantis. I think if you would start like that, and offered your help we would be a lot less jumpy. Better yet, search for posts were people ask advice related to sketchup and artlantis. I like Artlantis and used to do a lot of work in it, but still your posts were screaming "Look at me, I am a salesman".

Hi Almarma You really need to learn how your Mac works- it really helps, and it's not difficult either. If you search for stuff using Spotlight, you will get shown the pathways to directories/ files at the bottom of the window, where you will find what you need to throw away. I would also recommend that you Google "EasyFind", which is a brilliant search utility for Mac, and use that too I hope that helps

@unknownuser said: Unless you have the computing power you will never see "real-time". We run Opticore and showcase on a 192 core SGI icebox cluster and there is still a slight delay when rotating geometry...but we are rotating 1.5-2gb files with 75 million polys too. I might be just around the corner .....maybe in a year or 2 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/12/intel-48-core-processor/

@solo said: Looks great, what scares me is working with a client on a project and waking up the next morning to find he has been doing many changes overnight. It seems you can undo every change ,and you can give your cliënt differend kinds of rights to colaborate in the design. It looks that it works like in the 3d warehouse ,and in google docs. Check this out at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqd5Ellfo04 Bep

I see. .dae can be exported from SU, and meshlab does handle that format, as well as .obj then if it is just the .3ds file format that gets in the way. Chris

Okay, I now shut up as I am neither a Mac not an Indigo user.

Hi all, Andy from IceEdge put together a demo of a 39MB Sketchup model in Ice Vision, because I wanted to see how well it works with high-poly models. I've gotta say, it works good. Once the scene is loaded (this one took about a minute to load on my laptop) you can fly around or if you have scenes set up in Sketchup you can play a tour just the same as inside native Sketchup. Andy solved the black sky problem by putting a sky-textured sphere around the model...Good thinking, Andy Things I liked: -responsive navigation - not laggy like SU - I had several 3D trees, cars, and a 3D person and no sign of lagging. I included 2D trees that didn't turn out good but there is no reason to use them as 3D trees look much better and don't slow down the scene. -textures and colors translated very well -animated scenes in SU translate into Ice vision to create a one-click animated tour Things I didn't like: -no collision detection (should be able to toggle on/off as it is good for walking on rough terrain - but not so good for going thru closed doors) -fine details were lost, for example on the kitchen cabinet doors If anyone wants to check it out, here's the link. I had to increase the navigation speed in View Settings>Camera Settings. You can hit the play button for a quick tour or press the stop button at anytime to guide yourself around. Cheers, Marcus [image: EMg2_Capture.JPG]

Looks fab. Be great if they remember to include the buttons to create seamless tile-able textures out of it too...

...I'm not the expert here but the answer is YES....however with a specific geometric rock face like that, I would be inclined to model it rough in SKP and use the photography as alpha/bump maps, in short, creating the specific terrain in SKP and using VUE to populate it with green stuff. Vue isn't good for modeling...but I'd love to hear how someone would approach it from that direction.

If I install the PLE version of Infinite or Xstream and I wish to carry on using it commercially and without watermarks, can you register the PLE version and carry on working, or do you have to delete it and re-install a dedicated full version?

Tried RPS 3d pdf a while ago and it did an alright job. Currently use SimLab whenever it's necessary and it does a great job. I decided to stick with their old version though because the new "automatic camera mode" didn't seem to be turn-offable in the free version of the new one.

I found the problem guys. Somehow I had inserted 2 layers of the glass component into the group which when rendered in KT ~probably~ doubled the IOR. Once I fixed the glass to a single layer of glass the rending worked perfectly. I thank you for your assistance.

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I gave the demo a go and I am surprised with the speed. Much faster. Also less noise (fire flies) than before. Nice update. Skindigo works nicely with the latest built. Good job Whaat!

They can. However, it depends on the format. Newer Evermotion packs come as a .max file so you need to open it in 3dsMax and convert it to either a .3ds file or an .obj. I find that Dosch models are more user friendly to renders that are not 3dsMax, seeing as they usually come with .obj and textures.

I dont think there is any pulic information about the .skp format unfortunately. You can use the SDK to read and write .skp files though: http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/docs/downloadsdksubmit.html

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