Speak of an ass and it's bound to pass...

Well, I got here too late for the poll, but I do see that it reached 90 before being closed, not counting those who thumbed-up instead of poll voting. Does that mean it's a go for the non-drab version? Would another vote help?

Blender ?

You can consolidate toolbars. Native toolbars can be mixed and matched. Plugin toolbars can be customised in the same way by using Aerilius's Toolbar Editor. And the very few others missing from the native bars can be added using Jim's Custom Toolbars. Theoretically you could have everything on just 3 toolbars.

What was that an energy saving commercial?

What is fair depends on your point of reference. With regard to EASYsketch, if I was doing kitchen design all the time, their price as presented is fair (even if I dislike the subscription model). If I only need the plugin once a year, then it is too expensive for my purposes. As Sketchup progresses, we are seeing the emergence of a number of plugins which are quite sophisticated and cost accordingly. My basic comment is that if the price was cut in half for some of these plugins, would they sell twice as many? The basic problem is that the pricing model in the past for Sketchup plugins has been that they are cheap. Plugin developers certainly deserve to be paid for their work but they have to make the guess as to the how much they will sell at a given price. Bottom line is that the price of some of the newer plugins is too steep for my purposes.

Just looked at the loader code and can see the problem. Using a timer and trying to guess when your submenu will be ready is pretty fragile.

Prisonors will not like this!

Funny the new Donald Duck!

It's up to date... [image: h41g_seahawks.jpg]

http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=56004#p508307

I will try the .ZIP file technic, thanks TIG

Aren't you also using it for the PluginStore Author's edit pages' tooltips ? /templates/rt_halcyon/css/css-116e3c6b333e2b4b00d701e38be1f880.php These tooltips popup on PC and MAC... So it is MAC friendly something must be awry with the equivalent dynamically created css used by the dialog's code ? For example plugindex_2_5.css_20140103100927.css showing: .hint,[data-hint] { position;relative;} .hint;before,.hint;after,[data-hint];before,[data-hint];after { position;absolute;visibility;hidden;opacity;0;z-index;1000000;pointer-events;none;-webkit-transition;.3s ease;-moz-transition;.3s ease;transition;.3s ease} .hint;hover;before,.hint;hover;after,[data-hint];hover;before,[data-hint];hover;after{visibility;visible;opacity;1} .hint;before,[data-hint];before{content;'';position;absolute;background;transparent;border;6px solid transparent;z-index;1000001} .hint;after,[data-hint];after{content;attr(data-hint);background;#383838;color;#fff;padding;8px 10px;font-size;12px;line-height;12px;white-space;nowrap;} .hint--top;before{border-top-color;#383838} .hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#383838} .hint--left;before{border-left-color;#383838} .hint--right;before{border-right-color;#383838} .hint--top;before{margin-bottom;-12px} .hint--top;after{margin-left;-18px} .hint--top;before,.hint--top;after{bottom;100%;left;50%} .hint--top;hover;before,.hint--top;hover;after{-webkit-transform;translateY(-8px);-moz-transform;translateY(-8px);transform;translateY(-8px)} .hint--bottom;before{margin-top;-12px} .hint--bottom;after{margin-left;-18px} .hint--bottom;before,.hint--bottom;after{top;100%;left;50%} .hint--bottom;hover;before,.hint--bottom;hover;after{-webkit-transform;translateY(8px);-moz-transform;translateY(8px);transform;translateY(8px)} .hint--right;before{margin-left;-12px;margin-bottom;-6px} .hint--right;after{margin-bottom;-14px} .hint--right;before,.hint--right;after{left;100%;bottom;50%} .hint--right;hover;before,.hint--right;hover;after{-webkit-transform;translateX(8px);-moz-transform;translateX(8px);transform;translateX(8px)} .hint--left;before{margin-right;-12px;margin-bottom;-6px} .hint--left;after{margin-bottom;-14px} .hint--left;before,.hint--left;after{right;100%;bottom;50%} .hint--left;hover;before,.hint--left;hover;after{-webkit-transform;translateX(-8px);-moz-transform;translateX(-8px);transform;translateX(-8px)} .hint--error;after{background-color;#c0392b;} .hint--error.hint--top;before{border-top-color;#c0392b} .hint--error.hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#c0392b} .hint--error.hint--left;before{border-left-color;#c0392b} .hint--error.hint--right;before{border-right-color;#c0392b} .hint--warning;after{background-color;#d35400;} .hint--warning.hint--top;before{border-top-color;#d35400} .hint--warning.hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#d35400} .hint--warning.hint--left;before{border-left-color;#d35400} .hint--warning.hint--right;before{border-right-color;#d35400} .hint--info;after{background-color;#333;} .hint--info.hint--top;before{border-top-color;#333} .hint--info.hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#333} .hint--info.hint--left;before{border-left-color;#333} .hint--info.hint--right;before{border-right-color;#333} .hint--success;after{background-color;#27ae60;} .hint--success.hint--top;before{border-top-color;#27ae60} .hint--success.hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#27ae60} .hint--success.hint--left;before{border-left-color;#27ae60} .hint--success.hint--right;before{border-right-color;#27ae60} .hint--always;after,.hint--always;before{opacity;1;visibility;visible} .hint--always.hint--top;after,.hint--always.hint--top;before{-webkit-transform;translateY(-8px);-moz-transform;translateY(-8px);transform;translateY(-8px)} .hint--always.hint--bottom;after,.hint--always.hint--bottom;before{-webkit-transform;translateY(8px);-moz-transform;translateY(8px);transform;translateY(8px)} .hint--always.hint--left;after,.hint--always.hint--left;before{-webkit-transform;translateX(-8px);-moz-transform;translateX(-8px);transform;translateX(-8px)} .hint--always.hint--right;after,.hint--always.hint--right;before{-webkit-transform;translateX(8px);-moz-transform;translateX(8px);transform;translateX(8px)} .hint--rounded;after{border-radius;4px} The equivalent 'rt_halcyon' css used in the PluginStore dialog: .hint,[data-hint] { position;relative;} .hint;before,.hint;after,[data-hint];before,[data-hint];after { position;absolute;visibility;hidden;opacity;0;z-index;1000000;pointer-events;none;-webkit-transition;.3s ease;-moz-transition;.3s ease;transition;.3s ease} .hint;hover;before,.hint;hover;after,[data-hint];hover;before,[data-hint];hover;after{visibility;visible;opacity;1} .hint;before,[data-hint];before{content;'';position;absolute;background;transparent;border;6px solid transparent;z-index;1000001} .hint;after,[data-hint];after{content;attr(data-hint);background;#383838;color;#fff;text-shadow;0 -1px 0 black;padding;8px 10px;font-size;12px;line-height;12px;white-space;nowrap;box-shadow;4px 4px 8px rgba(0,0,0,.3)} .hint--top;before{border-top-color;#383838} .hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#383838} .hint--left;before{border-left-color;#383838} .hint--right;before{border-right-color;#383838} .hint--top;before{margin-bottom;-12px} .hint--top;after{margin-left;-18px} .hint--top;before,.hint--top;after{bottom;100%;left;50%} .hint--top;hover;before,.hint--top;hover;after{-webkit-transform;translateY(-8px);-moz-transform;translateY(-8px);transform;translateY(-8px)} .hint--bottom;before{margin-top;-12px} .hint--bottom;after{margin-left;-18px} .hint--bottom;before,.hint--bottom;after{top;100%;left;50%} .hint--bottom;hover;before,.hint--bottom;hover;after{-webkit-transform;translateY(8px);-moz-transform;translateY(8px);transform;translateY(8px)} .hint--right;before{margin-left;-12px;margin-bottom;-6px} .hint--right;after{margin-bottom;-14px} .hint--right;before,.hint--right;after{left;100%;bottom;50%} .hint--right;hover;before,.hint--right;hover;after{-webkit-transform;translateX(8px);-moz-transform;translateX(8px);transform;translateX(8px)} .hint--left;before{margin-right;-12px;margin-bottom;-6px} .hint--left;after{margin-bottom;-14px} .hint--left;before,.hint--left;after{right;100%;bottom;50%} .hint--left;hover;before,.hint--left;hover;after{-webkit-transform;translateX(-8px);-moz-transform;translateX(-8px);transform;translateX(-8px)} .hint--error;after{background-color;#b34e4d;text-shadow;0 -1px 0 #5a2626} .hint--error.hint--top;before{border-top-color;#b34e4d} .hint--error.hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#b34e4d} .hint--error.hint--left;before{border-left-color;#b34e4d} .hint--error.hint--right;before{border-right-color;#b34e4d} .hint--warning;after{background-color;#c09854;text-shadow;0 -1px 0 #6d5228} .hint--warning.hint--top;before{border-top-color;#c09854} .hint--warning.hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#c09854} .hint--warning.hint--left;before{border-left-color;#c09854} .hint--warning.hint--right;before{border-right-color;#c09854} .hint--info;after{background-color;#7F8C8D;text-shadow;0 -1px 0 #193c4c} .hint--info.hint--top;before{border-top-color;#7F8C8D} .hint--info.hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#7F8C8D} .hint--info.hint--left;before{border-left-color;#7F8C8D} .hint--info.hint--right;before{border-right-color;#7F8C8D} .hint--success;after{background-color;#458746;text-shadow;0 -1px 0 #1a331a} .hint--success.hint--top;before{border-top-color;#458746} .hint--success.hint--bottom;before{border-bottom-color;#458746} .hint--success.hint--left;before{border-left-color;#458746} .hint--success.hint--right;before{border-right-color;#458746} .hint--always;after,.hint--always;before{opacity;1;visibility;visible} .hint--always.hint--top;after,.hint--always.hint--top;before{-webkit-transform;translateY(-8px);-moz-transform;translateY(-8px);transform;translateY(-8px)} .hint--always.hint--bottom;after,.hint--always.hint--bottom;before{-webkit-transform;translateY(8px);-moz-transform;translateY(8px);transform;translateY(8px)} .hint--always.hint--left;after,.hint--always.hint--left;before{-webkit-transform;translateX(-8px);-moz-transform;translateX(-8px);transform;translateX(-8px)} .hint--always.hint--right;after,.hint--always.hint--right;before{-webkit-transform;translateX(8px);-moz-transform;translateX(8px);transform;translateX(8px)} .hint--rounded;after{border-radius;4px} You will see there are subtle differences in the css coding. One works on MAC, and one doesn't... the one that fails uses some differing/additional codes: .hint:after,[data-hint]:after{content:attr(data-hint);background:#383838;color:#fff;**text-shadow:0 -1px 0 black;**padding:8px 10px;font-size:12px;line-height:12px;white-space:nowrap;**box-shadow:4px 4px 8px rgba(0,0,0,.3)**}*** .hint--error:after{background-color:#b34e4d;**text-shadow:0 -1px 0 #5a2626**}*** and several similar lines... [some just with different colors] versus .hint:after,[data-hint]:after{content:attr(data-hint);background:#383838;color:#fff;padding:8px 10px;font-size:12px;line-height:12px;white-space:nowrap;} .hint--error:after{background-color:#c0392b;} and several similar lines... [some just with different colors] ***Also several lines in the failing css have no terminating ' ;' which the MAC might not like ?

Not so vicious! Fredo Scale again! Tapering of the bounding box seems make the trick ! So the Doh Duh for Rich! & CleanUp by Thomthom at the end! [image: EXEk_atapering.jpg] 10 seconds with a hand attached in the back Of course you must make an Helper guide line of the angle wished first by the external Top edge! So 2 seconds more! [image: Da3S_atap01.jpg] thomthom-example1v6.skp

After many setbacks we will release v2.5 next week. The reason for the delay is that w added the ability to bulk update plugins... [screenr:owkm4dx2]BWsN[/screenr:owkm4dx2] ...so no more click, click, click Other goodies reside within but they're been kept quiet until release

@gilles said: Show your face instead hiding behind your thumb. Yes definitively , I am even ready to show my face in my avatar if the thumbs down are eliminated . Ah , OK , this silence from Rich O Brien , author of this thread , makes me wonder and makes me feel that this place is no longer a friendly place for me . Bye Bye Crew .

Nice.