hi Guys, Thanks for all the replies. I have been monitoring the replies on the Survey and there is an overwhelming majority in favour of the proposition, actually its 43 to 1 in favour. The one against remained anonymous! A venture like this will in no way dilute the good will and helpfulness of the SFC, this would be impossible I think. The survey is simply a way to determine whether or not there are SCF members that are interested in taking on contract work via the Net and transacting this via SketchUcation for guarantees of payment and fairness. It is also a proposed venture that will in some way offer some paid employment opportunities for the SFC managers in the future. I wish to advise that we have made substantial progress on this venture and I would like each of the members that responded positively to the survey to please forward me the email addresses that they would like me to forward more details to. We have email addresses on file but I would like to send to advised email addresses. This information can be PMd to me. Thanks All, Mike

Image Modeller looks very good, at least at Youtube videos... although there is something free. Latest public beta is from October 2008. You will find a link there. Lukas Mach's - Insight 3D http://www.opengl.cz/ He intends to release it with a source code. It will make it an open-source project as Blender. I have tried the Insight, but without reading the documentation, I have not achieved a 3D result. Will try it once again when time permits. Tomasz

As an outside observer, I find it hard to reconcile these two contributions:- @unknownuser said: You missed the point. I wasn't saying McCain would have been better, I was saying the libs' reaction to McCain would have been more pronounced had he done what Obama is doing. and @unknownuser said: he's the most divisive president in the last 30 years. Surely the point of the apparent polarization over Obama’s policies is a sign that the political right is much less willing to meet any other opinion even half-way than is the political left….hence they are generally the more partisan of the two. If you actually look at the individual approval rating you will notice that the two lowest approvals (26% and 27%) are both Republican…by a very substantial margin, suggesting that Republicans are far less tolerant of any policies other than their own than are Democrats. It also seems to be the case that when a Republican president is in office the Democratic rating is usually within 10 or 20% of the Independent whilst the Republican approval goes stratospheric...suggesting the same thing. (Places big wooden spoon back on shelf)

I understand (I think) what you are saying Dave. Pete, that pic could not be real if they say all then have done to date is a short flight on the take off / landing strip.

Someone fancy an electric Ford Mustang? 0 to 60 Miles/Hour in 3.9 Seconds 120 Mph Top Speed Vehicle Weight 3300 lbs Range: Base Model with Power Cells 110 Miles *Range can be increased to 200+ Miles Engine Proprietary DC Electric Motor System 300 HP, in Excess of 1000 ft/lbs of Torque Pure "Plug In" with 110/220V Hook up Capability Recharge Time 3 1/2 hours/220V and 8 hours/110V Faster Recharging Capability Optional Dual Driving Mode Racing/Economy http://www.hstintl.com/index.php?menu=1&submenu=122 [image: mKMw_tjaarda-evx01.jpg] [image: JoIM_tjaarda-evx02.jpg]

I understand Pres BHO is Planting about 3 Trillion heads of Cabbage! Yee-HAW! yeah. . .it's a Pretty lousy PhoShop job, but it's just a gag, for cryin' out loud! [image: ZedD_AMericanBarathak.jpg]

As Bill Engvall would say ... "Here's your sign!"

@adamb said: Did you use the Image-based lighting to get the shading like that? Yes, both videos have HDR backgrounds, but the Great Wall video uses the SketchUp sun, too.

They're just trying to follow Macs infamous business model of overcharging their faithful customers.

Dave, You could get in on the act and design one

@solo said: looks cool. Just remember, wait for version 2 before buying. this has been soooo true for the ipod touch! 2nd generation is way better. Clearly i got my 1st generation a month beflore the upgrade, bummer P.S.: that laptop design is very very cool

BTM said @unknownuser said: A change in perspective makes all the difference. Imagine they were chickens instead of cats... would you have the same reaction? Probably still negative, but maybe not as much. As I said, I don't have any issues with what particular meat people eat, it's not even on my radar. But that level of cruelty is unnecessary. Even if I ate meat I would still hold this view. And yes I do extend that opinion to chickens. The images on that website cannot be compared to even the worse cases of farming.

Thanks, considering it is partially a joke .

If i remember correctly your sent an automated password to log in with which you can then change once youve logged in. You can copy and paste the password that was emailed to you in for extra ease.

@linea said: @unknownuser said: maybe even model them a fish I'm not just a fish, I'm a chameleon/fish hybrid if you could combine your avatar with Gaieus's we could put that on a pillow at the bottom of the sea

Hi Mike. I was just going to reach for my credit card, when I noticed that I must pay via PayPal. This would have been fine a month ago, but in the usual PayPal way, they seem to have messed my transition to a new card up- and at the moment I have no PayPay!! Argghhh!! I wish people would take gold old VISA again, or even Kagi, because you can't save any edits in the demo Tom

I remember these little caravan/tent combos from my childhood. AFAIK the ones we saw here were "Czechoslovakian" make (I haven't seen them for a while - maybe because there's no Czechoslovakia any more). They are also quite comfortable inside.