Just an FYI - we got this file, and could fix one error, but it had two major errors. The second resulted in me having to delete 5 of 20 pages which will have to be recreated. If anyone gets a file that wont open or crash, please send it in via Help->Contact Us and file a bug. If you put your information (and ask if bjanzen can take a look), I'll try to fix. Thanks to pgarch and others for helping us try to track this down.

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Hi Matt,

I remember Andrew (aka "Utiler" here) also compőlaining about this as for him it would be the logical way (double clicking) to unlock a locked layer.

Currently you need to go to the Layer dialog in the Tray in LO and unlock the locked layer these blocks are on (there is a small padlock icon next to the layer name). Now you can edit the template - then lock it again to prevent unintentional/incidental editing.

(I deleted your duplicate post in the Newbie section, if you don't mind)

There's been a lot of discussion about this, mostly for architectural work, so take a look at http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=15911

I'll try to respond both here and to Google Help: we did test our files on 10.4.11 (and one machine with ATI 1600 - the common MacBook Pro graphics card of 2 years ago), and we're not seeing it. To send in the file, Help->Contact Us->File a Bug and you can attach a file to the bug you're reporting. I'll get it from our support group and we'll test with your OS & graphics card, and this time with your file. Thanks.

We have had a regression bug from LayOut 1 where this would happen, but we haven't seen it lately. Just for grins, upgrade to 2.1.5803 if you could: LayOut->Check for Update.

Your template also sets tool defaults (font, line start/end style), and you'll notice on our templates that we have different styles to match the style of the template. You should do the same.

Create a template, use the label tool to draw a label, modify it to the line style and font/font size, etc... that you want. Then sample it, and draw another label to confirm that the label tool is set to the style you want. Delete labels, and save your template. When you use this template, your label style should come through.

You'll see this if you unzip your template, then look at styleManager.xml. The defaults for each tool (text, linear dimension, label tool) and default document styles are set here.

b
LayOut Crime Scene Forensics Dept.

Well, it doesn't necessarily seem to be so obvious as it doesn't work with thumbnails so once someone tries with them, won't necessarily experiment with the list view.

Ah - so what's your OS and what's the fileserver OS? We put things on a server all the time, but it could be that we're not getting a consistent / true file status. Let me know, and we'll try to duplicate it and fix / change if possible.

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@jsteacy said:

hybrid

This is a bug that you can't do anything about, other than change the
camera slightly like you have been doing. What version are you using?
You can submit a bug and make sure to send in the example that shows
the problem.

Tim - if you can send me the file, I'll take a look, fix it, and see if we can categorize it.

b

hello,
there's "dim_angle.rb", but it's not beautyful

dim_angle.rb

I answered (1) - cut & paste. (2) PDF embedding "just works" on Mac, not available without ghostscript on PC.

b

Slightly different. Center Point plugin.

@bjanzen said:

Adjusting the grid opacity is a regression bug. I just tried it in 2.0 and it worked, but LayOut doesn't respect grid line opacity settings in 2.1. Ouch. Sorry.

b

Sorry, I didn't tell you before... I did the grid (because the spacing is not really the same between x and y) using LO lines and setting their opacity to 10 (the color is black).
I discovered a bug accidently 😄
But however, as I wrote in the first post, exporting my work in jpg the resulting images are exactly what I want them to be (and the same as I see in my monitor, that's ok).
I was just wondering how PDF has not the same output image as jpg. That was all.
BTW many thanks for your helpfull advices!

Well the weird thing is that if I make some changes to the model, save it then update the model in layout sometimes it renders it properly without me ever touching the style settings or the material itself. Which happened to be the case for this model I was working on which magically worked after some revisions to the model. I don't get it, it seems to be a bug.

Charlie, I noticed that in the left side of the images you posted the transparency of the two pieces of wood are different in the images and I believe worked properly in the first image (Faster) but not in the second (medium). Also I just noticed, at what appears to be a bottom rail of a railing, when it hits that column it is rendered really transparent in the third image which does not seem proper to me (and is a lot more than the first image). I could be wrong though. There is definitely something wrong with looking through 2 transparent materials.

jsteacy

@ebelg2000 said:

Looks like it doesn't work for me either.

There are many new technologies in Leopard that just aren't present in Tiger. Why don't you just upgrade to Leopard? I'm sure you can now pick up a (now old) 10.5 system disc for next to nothing. I know it's a drag, but it's like getting developers to still support OS9 or even worse ME or NT2000! 😲 😄

Oh, I should point out that on Mac, it's not importing PDF's as vector; for that, you'll need Illustrator, output to dxf, into SketchUp, etc...

Hi Gaieus

wow, that was simple. Sorry I missed it

Hi Stan,

Not a Word doc but an rtf text file. You can insert these files and they are indeed preserved as such inside the *.layout file (if you rename it *.zip, you will find the rtf files inside)

@jorgensen said:

hi jhauswirth

I created the scenes inside SU.

Select the model in LayOut and look in the SU dialog's Styles'
tab. Do you see a style called "Modified Active Style" or a
style with (Modified) in front of it?
(probably the one that's selected)

You might be seeing the effect of the 'show section planes' switch being global. I'm referring to the toolbar button that (on my mac) looks like a yellow easel for some reason. If you turn on visible section planes and change scenes then they will be visible in the new scene, a bit like the 'show hidden geometry' menu option.

There is a switch in the style edit window for section planes as well as section cuts. If you turn on section planes and update your style and switch to a scene with a different style you should notice the section planes disappearing and reappearing when you swap back again.

So I think you might need to
a) create a new style with the section planes turned on
b) set your 'map scene' to use that style
c) make sure your other scenes don't have section planes turned on in their style

So far as I can tell most of the default styles actually have the section plane turned on already so most likely you'll have to create on with it turned off and use that for the non-map scenes. Depends on what styles you have loaded I guess.