WIP: European Back Alley

[sepo]

The size of the stones at near top of the arch look way small. It looks like it could fall any minute.

[smokinbakin]

@sepo said:

The size of the stones at near top of the arch look way small. It looks like it could fall any minute.

Thanks for the help I will fix that shortly.

@sir said:

its not symmetrical

That was intentional to give it a worn down old appearance.

[Sir]

yes but in the olden days they build them properly or they didnt stand up at all! and i think your would have collapsed a long time ago...

but hey, thats what artistic license is for

[smokinbakin]

Here is and update, including a reference photo which a am mostly modeling after, but I will change a few things to my liking.

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[sepo]

Exactly...arch is same thickness all around, otherwise it would collapse.

[smokinbakin]

@sepo said:

Exactly...arch is same thickness all around, otherwise it would collapse.

I think I will just make all the little stones near the top bigger, and just ignore the fact that my arch would collapse in real life

[sepo]

Part of believeable render is that it resembles real and correct. If your arch does not read correct it will always poke you in the eye...

[smokinbakin]

@sepo said:

Part of believeable render is that it resembles real and correct. If your arch does not read correct it will always poke you in the eye...

Well I will do what I can to fix the problem, If you want to have a go fixing the problem, here is the Arch.

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the arch

[artysmedia]

I would like to be able to make something similar to this someday...
I want to see more!

[smokinbakin]

Here is part of the model I have textured, I rendered it in V-Ray attempting a evening look. I have included the visopt settings at the bottom, renamed as a ruby script.

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Evening render settings

[marked001]

looking awesome so far...

[artysmedia]

Good job with light and textures... waiting for more more more

[smokinbakin]

Thanks for the comments! Here is another render, I tried to make it a bit brighter.

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[olishea]

it looks real, nice texturing. I enjoy looking at this post. although I would reduce the opacity of your vignette layer

[brodie]

I agree, it's looking really promising! Fun thread to follow along with as more comes out

I'm with olishea on the rendering but then again I hate it when people start nitpicking my WIP so I won't say anything about that

-Brodie

[cadmunkey]

nice model, I look forward to more progress.

[massimo]

Very nice model so far. But comparing your model with the real photo i can say:

1. The proportion between the width of the alley and the height of the buildings is wrong and very improbable in a medieval city. The right side building has to be higher and the alley tighter;
2. You have a strange, and quite impossible, floor join in the right side building: the backline of the door-window of the first floor is under the top edge of the door on the ground floor;
3. The left side building has, in the reference photo, a crooked front that ideally converge towards the arch. The same for the building of the right side: his front is aligned with the arch;
4. The real alley has no sidewalks.
   I understand that your model in not intended to be “real”, but when you design a street or a square, proportions and relationships between the open spaces and buildings are really important to represent a place, even an imaginary one.
   Sorry, i know, i’m a boring european architect

[smokinbakin]

@massimo said:

Very nice model so far. But comparing your model with the real photo i can say:

1. The proportion between the width of the alley and the height of the buildings is wrong and very improbable in a medieval city. The right side building has to be higher and the alley tighter;
2. You have a strange, and quite impossible, floor join in the right side building: the backline of the door-window of the first floor is under the top edge of the door on the ground floor;
3. The left side building has, in the reference photo, a crooked front that ideally converge towards the arch. The same for the building of the right side: his front is aligned with the arch;
4. The real alley has no sidewalks.
   I understand that your model in not intended to be “real”, but when you design a street or a square, proportions and relationships between the open spaces and buildings are really important to represent a place, even an imaginary one.
   Sorry, i know, i’m a boring european architect

I appreciate the help, but I am not trying to exactly model the photo, It was just use as a basis for my model. As for the impossible floor join, I am hoping one in a thousand people will actually notice it. But thanks for the help

[Edson]

@solo said:

It's free:

An Ivy Generator

(graphics.uni-konstanz.de)

have you played with that? i wonder how sketchup would deal with the polys involved in those ivies.

[solo]

Edson, I certainly have and really like it, but I do not import the final .obj into SU as SU cannot handle the polys, I export my model and Ivy into a 3rd party render app instead.