thanks for the comments everyone. Tom, the edge accent is a cool trick I learned from majid... it involves the creative use of the "colored pencil" filter in photoshop to find the edges for you, just put these on a separate layer pre-caravaggio to get control of them

Fletch, you are right, the shadows do become a bit too fuzzy, I take it that will be reduced if I reduce the radius of the light casting the shadows? Ward, ha ha, its good that you prefered my render over the photo! For soft shadows in the light settings there is a check box to cast 'soft shadows' just click it. Thanks for the comments! Might look to making minor ammendments or I may move on to bigger and, hopefully, better things. Joe

I kinda like it. Did you just use the watercolor filter in photoshop? Came out better than my first real watercolor.

@elysium said: Have you ever considered making a version that works inside SU? I'm an amateur on this but i think the future is more on programs that work integrated with SU rather than the standalone ones that require imports. What's your opinion on this? I agree with you that an integration will be excellent and I'm sure that you will be pleased with the next generation of the SU2KT... Having said that, you also need to remember that KT isn't made for SU solely... A standalone render application will still be needed... Just a comment on your render... You should change the material for the windows in your model to be thin glass...

Good renders Scott. They look a bit dark to me, but that could be caused by screen settings. Good luck on your new job. You'll do fine. regards, Kwistenbiebel

@stefanq said: Nomer, I want to thank you with this occasion, because your comments are always very very supportive and constructive in the same time. You are my favorite person from the forums! Ok..I said it! It's really admirable what you do in the forums. Fernando, vray it's nothing without guys like Nomer and others. I would say that, 50% of what you learn, came from this kind of wonderful community of people, who guide you, support you and make you to want more, to do better. I'm glad that you like my renders, I know I still have to learn allot, but I guess I catch the basics of vray. Thanks for comment! Regards, Stefan Im humbled...with this i think i would like to thank Kwistein Biebel. Christ. thanks man. a man who encourage each one of us.

Nice drawings, i actually thought that was a style for sketchup at first and was rather impressed by it. Ohh and about that car...625 ponies (has more on the new model), who wouldn't love that car, i saw one on the street once i can only express it as Daddy i want one i also want an automatic handsketcher Cheers

thanks guys for your comment. hope could learn more.

Upload this model: http://www.sketchupbbs.com/model/TANK.rar [image: kMV0_PP_.JPG]

haha...this is great! like it alot. where are those people from???

simagenes good, maybe too much noise in both, and I think it could well a little more reflection on the floor, greetings

john I think it was absolutely right regarding the chairs, the menu and especially the people, provided that settlement is a problem beyond me another jaja

allanx thanks for the commentary richard, it may be that if, on Kerkythea and whites, birds tend to shine too.

Finally had a chance to work through the Piranesi tutorials, so here's the first result. [image: CJzP_6-LWadsworth-SH-viewS-alt.jpg] A higher resolution version of the same image is available in this gallery on Picasa. (The faked "etching texture" of the background texture is more visible in the higher res version.) I rather disliked the original view towards the South (north elevation in perspective) shown in the first post of this thread because of the non-human (but not particularly bird-like) point-of-view. This is more reasonable, from eye-height for a 6' tall human. Pity it's too late to re-submit the image. I'm finding Piranesi to be a fight...so far, it seems to be the most expensive Photoshop accessory ever (as far as I am concerned), because almost inevitably the output needs pixel-scrubbing and layering in ways that don't seem easily achievable with Piranesi alone. I'm not sure I like this as much as the "bad photocopy" pre-Piranesi NPR renderings posted before, although it is in fact much more like a Schuiten-type illustration (which may not be a good thing--there's something deceitful about faking older illustration media with digital means. This is not a pen-and-ink drawing, anymore than a VRay rendering would be a photograph).

yes me too

Thanks for the crits guys. Remus, the lens flares are agreeably too distracting, they were just to play around with lighting affects in PS. I would definately not put them in a final rendering. And damn Julius, I didnt think anyone was going to catch that about the untensils. They definately give off a blueish reflection. I think it has something to do with the refraction layer for my glasses. But good catch. Im gonna try to fix that.

Thanks for the people Majid. Looking forward to seeing the final project. I would need to have an idea about the materials you are using before I could offer a crit. Mike

Lovely arrangement and design Fernando! I like it allot!

Thanks for adding the person, Maverick. That really is going to be a beefy powerplant. I wish we could have plants like that over here in the UK. When I see all the huge expanses of wasted rooftops out there it just saddens me that we don't utilise them and help our environment. I've only ever used Podium as a renderer so I can't comment on the others like Kerkythea but I've seen its output and they have been impressive. Altho the free version of Podium does have a limit to the resolution size, it isn't an expensive programme to buy and it is incredibly easy to use and learn. In my opinion it is well worth the money.

Also, have you made sure all faces are front face.