Thanks folks. Maybe I could get more work if I moved to Vietnam. About 40 years ago, most of the architectural renderings were either water color or colored pencil. I was trying to learn colored pencil techniques to that end but whatever illustrative presentation were just elevations on mylar and technical pens. The rest of my work was drafting. From land surveys, to civil engineering to structural engineering. Planning and at an architect's office which was 2D drafting. Started doing non-photo real rendering around the mid 2000s and I was charging $500 per rendering. Of course I spent far more billable time than $500 with all the details. I needed the work and the experience or practice. Most of my work remains drafting. I starting doing more photo-real rendering using Kerkythea. I finally got Thea Render only a few years ago. I tried V-Ray but it kept crashing on me. D5 Render is really good for doing fast work. I like setting things up with Thea now and rendering in D5. It's difficult to get rendering work. Last week someone wanted a rendering. For $350. I would have done it for $600 since I already did the model for the architect. I've gotten anywhere from $500 to $2,500 (USD) for architectural renderings. At one point I really needed work and did some non-photo real for container homes. For a mere $100. I can't think of any way to stand out to get rendering work. If it's not outsourcing it seem like real estate investors aren't even interested in renderings anymore. Architectural firms are just using Revit generated renderings which for the most part look amateurish.

@rich o brien said: I was close to saying AI generated but I wasn't sure. It was the windows and panelling that looked off. If you tried to match that with a render the time needed would be chunky! It failed with the leg style though. But overall impressive. Especially your later share. It seems things especially on the perimeters of the image get painted with a large brush. And you're right about it failing with the legs. Maybe with better prompts. I haven't tried any other AI image generators so I don't know how they compare. Here's another I did yesterday. The original. [image: 53384889175_a0e4194a63_b.jpg] Part of the prompt indicated stucco patches on old brick wall. I got these. [image: 53384453296_aec9ae07f3_b.jpg] [image: 53384764434_604112c340_b.jpg] I like my brick wall texture better but like you say, in the right hands it is pretty amazing. And certainly for no more time than I have invested in the images, it's hard to complain too much. Well, except for the stucco that looks like it was made from a wedding dress.

@jo-ke said: wow! Very nice, I love the curtains and the light. Thanks, the curtains are Native TM microphone mesh material, under metal.

Excellent work as always.

Most excellent !

Thanks all. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

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Thanks marked001!

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And that says it all TBoy.

Very sharp mate.

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@gus r said: Dave, The Nvidia Texture Tools has a standalone which I'm using which you can get here. I only use a couple of features with that to create normal maps. This looks interesting. Thanks!

Mind warping stuff there.

@rich o brien said: @dave r said: Of course with AI doing that in a couple of seconds, maybe there will be a shift. Artificial intelligence doesn't worry me as much as natural stupidity does. Good point. Natural stupidity does seem to be on the rise.

I thank you, I'm here until next, no wait up, I can't leave yet..................

@tuna1957 said: @bryan k said: I cannot let this go. Bryan have you considered joining a support group, maybe “sketchuppers anonymous” ? Your persistence is to be applauded.

@tuna1957 said: Better result ? Darned if I know. Darned if I know either. I like some aspects of both of them.

Thanks Mike and Bryan