@thomthom said:

Might be partly duplicate functions - but a key feature in this script was the naming: the definition inherited the group's name, not the instance.

@mac1 said:

I use it very often to convert single groups to components especially in models where some one has used a number of identical groups.

Does SketchUp still consider them copies of each other? If you select one and open Entity Info - does it say "Group (3 in model)" ?
If so, Selection Toys can convert them into components in one operation.

Don't remember but you can take say 50 groups and then convert them to a single component or individual components (50) If my memory is correct it did use the same name for the component as the group number but what I don't like is how it moves around in the outliner and in a large model you have to then search to find the ones converted to replace as noted above

I use it very often to convert single groups to components especially in models where some one has used a number of identical groups. Then you can use the component browser function of replace selected to replace all these converted groups with one component. Caution there is a quirk with the program. You also have to include in your selection a line also. http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=323&t=28395

There is a plug in Make_components by Matt66 I think is the author. It will change groups to single or one overall. Is there any diff here??

old post my give you some insite http://groups.google.com/group/SketchUp3d/browse_thread/thread/cfbd13e717549bf2/b94bfac372ee1df1?q=quidditch&lnk=nl&

rv1974
You are trying to 'morph" an arc into a 1/4 section of elipse. A intersection of cylinder and plane with the plane perpendicular to the axis of cylinder is a circle, non perpendicular will be a ellipse and arc will not fit that very well. If you draw a triangle using the cylinder center(base) and the two desired end points gives you a plane ref which a section plane can be algned to and intersected with the cylinder to get what you want. You will have to first use the section tool option to make the slice a group to get the intersection.

Aterf all my rambling this AM and spending much of the afternoon running test I can come up with several conclusions:
1)If one enables the componet axis and the gluing plane (the blue x) is not visible the component will not glue;
2) A component can be glued, rotated, pasted / copied , array copied on a single colinear surface;
3) Cutting both sides of a thick wall requires some type of trick involving two components. Some consist of nested components. I used construction points turned into a component with a gluing plane and then a "replace selected" form the component browser for the front with the front points selected and then repeated the same for the back component;
4) Selecting both the front and back and attempts of move / copy , paste etc is not sucessful because the gluing plane ref is lost. This appears to not be a Open GL problem because it was the same for both Open GL enabled and disabled. I expected to see some difference here ref the above rambling quaternions because Open GL does use those;
5) In regards to axis swap this is the only ref. Do a search for LENY in the user manual and it addresses the axis swap

@brookefox said:

When circles are placed on a face through explosions of other entities (they themselves are not exploded), sometimes they intersect properly with the face on which they are coincident, often not.
This is the orginal OP and the "other entities" they them selves are not exploded imply you are dealing with components
SU behaves oddly with regard to them. If I try to explicitly intersect the entities so as to be able to delete an unwanted face of the circle, the operation fails to intersect but doesn't return an error msg. If I redraw the circle nearby and move to the same problem location, it usually results in the circle face being distinct as I want it, but if I copy/move it does not (the face is whole across the circle edges)!!!

I apologize for not explaining the images in detail but I thought it likely that experienced users are well familiar with this phenomenon. I'll get back if that is not the case.

Additional thought ref axis issue.
This link http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=677 and others I have read have an under laying theme of axis setting issues. I have a suspicion / gut feeling about what is going on but absolutely no proof.
The thought is when a axis translation and especially rotation is done the final results one gets is a function of the sequence used to get there.
This means it is not invariant. To prevent this artifact from happening quaternions are used or one has to be very careful the sequence is properly used to accomplish the change. The following is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternions_and_spatial_rotation:
"A simple exercise of applying two rotations to an asymmetrical object (e.g., a book) can explain it. First, rotate a book 90 degrees clockwise around the z axis. Next flip it 180 degrees around the x axis and memorize the result. Then restore the original orientation, so that the book title is again readable, and apply those rotations in opposite order. Compare the outcome to the earlier result. This shows that, in general, the composition of two different rotations around two distinct spatial axes will not commute"
As long as translations are done co-linear with the SU drawing axis where the component axis are set then things should be OK but rotation can be an issue
Just a thought

@skakub said:

Hello everyone. I think I made another small step in resolving this double-sided cut-ins for window/door components. I might have missed the solution posted earlier, but here is my 5cents.

I get to the point where I nested #1 and #2 (external and internal openings) components inside the #3 which is a full window. What happened- I obviously lost 'cut opening' capability for all of them. But, when creating #3 component I set it's axis into those shown on enclosed image. Then I took it from component browser and dropped into the model. It lost 'cut-opening' feature only for the internal opening (#2). #1 still has it, and so #3. After exploding, #3 gets full cut-opening features. I hope you all understood what I meant, I think the picture shows it all. Only thing I don't understand is why component axis have to be different from model axis... any suggestions ?

For c#3 in your skp file the red cross green axis shows a right hand system but , the PS edited shows left or did I miss some thing??

FYI maybe some help?? http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=677

Two out of x a bug does not make but possibly a model or application error. JPG does not tell the whole story post the model!

Can you post "the path" as skp. What one does maybe a function of how you created it. IE if it is a crazy Bezier or??

Shoulds like and hopefully your model is made up of nested components / groups. If so you can use the window=>outliner find the entity you want, select it and go form there

Here is a interesting link from a quick Goole search. Maybe some new info for you there http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/#pizza-oven-design-installation

Here is a link to similar question in the help forum, maybe it will help some http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/sketchup/thread?tid=0a9b7b20ecc8e1bf&hl=en

See this site http://www.finewoodworking.com/blog/design-click-build/page/4 many how too's and this http://www.srww.com/google-sketchup.htm. The an 8 part tutorial on building a bed side table I would recommend to you.

@mac1 said:

@filipaguy said:

Maybe this will help to identify my problem. In same time stoped working Vectoworks 2010, Photoshop CS5 and AutoCad 2011 I cant even open VW and Photoshop and AutoCad show me this error: Unhandled Exception C0000005 (Acces Violation Reading 0x012c) at address 6F92AFFh Damn Im realy desperate

Suggest you try to get back to a restore point where your system was working ok and then look at what changes were made at around the time the problem happened

Also according to this thread http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/sketchup/thread?tid=2e3e6d3534640db1&hl=en Su 7 and up does not have a repair capability

@filipaguy said:

Maybe this will help to identify my problem. In same time stoped working Vectoworks 2010, Photoshop CS5 and AutoCad 2011 I cant even open VW and Photoshop and AutoCad show me this error: Unhandled Exception C0000005 (Acces Violation Reading 0x012c) at address 6F92AFFh Damn Im realy desperate

Suggest you try to get back to a restore point where your system was working ok and then look at what changes were made at around the time the problem happened

@sanderka said:

At least it's no be being too stupid to use the plugin.

Again, I completely understand that there are more important projects on your list than helping a random guy for free . Thank you again for your response and help, I'll gladly wait in line.

SAnderka
Picking up ref TIG,s comment about the "crooked stars". My checks indicate the following; Almost every building is not square. Don't know if this is by design or modeling error. If latter you need to learn how to use the inference engine for acurate drawing; In some cases the primitive geo of the group is assigned to layer other than layer 0. All primitive geo should go on layer 0, assiging components / groups to layers other than 0 can be used of visibility control.
Just some thoughts for you

@brookefox said:

Thanks for yor response. This use I get but for it I don't need this plugin:
@unknownuser said:

problems with file size had numerous groups with the same geo.
One can make components out of groups and instances of groups this with native SU.

It's the making of components out of lines that I don't get much of.

So for your 'simple' best use you would have a lot of lines in your models which are not parts of components, and making them components with this would reduce your file size. OK. I do have a lot of groups which are not components, but next to no lines which are not parts of groups or components. For me the crux is when and what groups to componetize, just because it take time, even if it saves file space. Certainly if I have many of said group or I want component behavior from a group it would be best componentized, I don't need a plugin to do that. Rereading the thread I see the use implied of maybe wanting to populate a model with lines, componetize them and then subsequently edit the component which would then be in place wherever the lines were. If I can do this now with two lines instead of one, that is sufficient for me.

Glad you are happy with what you have that is what is important. The plugin is just another wrench in the tool box.
You are correct SU has that native capability but what are you going to do if you have say a 100 groups and identical. The native tool will make a component out of all of them but the reduction of file size doing that will be nil.
My test case was not suppose to be a global analysis of a model having a mix of various entities and was meant to show what poor modeling practice can cost one. The model has 33 groups and nested in each of those is three groups( all identical) and some other simple entities a really a simple model. If you examine one of those and expolde the component the change in file size is nil so the the message is use components but having a bunch of nested groups in the components does not help much
Gday