Don't know if they have a model with Chalkline? [image: CouteauSuisseGuiness.jpg]

It's a matter of 6 of 1, half a dozen of the other. If the component files were saved as a component within a file then they wouldn't work properly when opened directly in your model, they would have a second top layer. A container within a container. It's not just dynamic components. If you select some geometry and save as a component, it will create a component that you can use happily via the component browser, but if you open the file itself it will be loose geometry. If you open an empty model and insert the component then save that model and upload it to the warehouse, it will then get a second coat if you download it again into another model. So you have a choice, one way you are over dressed the other way you are naked.

@pbacot said: [Hey! Since when the LIKE buttons? I LIKE that!] today

@gilles said: You could work on a plane sheet then use shape bender: Another good way. I just didn't think shape bender went past 360 degrees. Learned something new!

@pbacot said: Is this dwg file any help. It's translated from the pdf. and I made this SU file from that. I did nothing to check the scale. Scale from a pdf is probably suspect. You can rescale. Thanks for the input. I went ahead and did one myself and then matched yours to mine and they were the same except one step had an angle difference of .1 degrees lol and like Dave said .2 doesn't even mater. I called my friend who has a cnc plasma cutter in his business and he says that it is only accurate to .5 degrees on a small part like this just because of the slag burn off!

Nice one Mike! Looks like you will be using SketchUp to 'sell' more in the future. Mike

Oh. Just a flat panel, then. Not raised?

@futurepast said: Went around that damn room 6 times fixing errors, before I realized I was changing the same component (1 0f 14). I might have gone on for hours 'cept I ran out of beer! OHHH boy ... that's a good one.

Mike, to answer your specific question, it wouldn't be an easy thing to adjust the spacing between the ribbons. It would require a change in the radius of the curves. The Scale tool could be used to squash things flatter but it would make the ribbons thinner, too. Are you thinking of a sort of panel of woven wood strips? If so I think the idea from the Parisian Fence is good. Make a small section that you can repeat and make that a component. Then copy that into an array. I do that for grilles. Here's a simple example. [image: 5979597868_808f4b6fcc.jpg] This grille is made of three different components, shown on the right. The faces that fall in the seams are deleted (magenta is the back face color for this example) and the seam lines on the horizontal surfaces are hidden.

It's hard to determine an appropriate design without seeing the design of the rest of the room/house.

Thanks for the advice and great looking trunk! I've got thrupaint but haven't learned how to use it....When I got Sketchup, I immediatly joined this forum, so you can see from my join date I am a Newbe with alot to learn, and there is SO MUCH! Mike

@rich o brien said: There's also this plugin http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=31124 I was thinking that myself but could not find it in my search to post.

Well spoken, i feel exactly the same way about this forum. You wanna learn Sketchup, you come here

Got ya! thanx

Thanks, I started over doing it a different way and the poly count went way down. The first time I did a screen layout for the holes and then used radial bending to make the pipe shape. I thought it would be easier to use a grid pattern first. It was the bending that added the extras. This time I just made the pipe and took the time to punch the holes. More time less problems