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    Rayscaper, My trip down the road to adjumacation.

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    • Mike AmosM 離線
      Mike Amos @Bryan K
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      @Bryan-K

      Ta mate, feedback always helpful. Building and rendering the scene can lead to missing/ignoring stuff.

      Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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      • Rich O BrienR 離線
        Rich O Brien Moderator @Mike Amos
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        @Mike-Amos If the sun coming in the window is a directional light you should raise the angle values slightly to soften the shadow.

        I sometime mix both HDRIs and Directional Lights to get the light the way I want it.

        HDRs are great but some might offer you the background you want but not the light direction or power. Adding a directional to give you more artistic controls is sometimes a good hack.

        Be mindful of power values and balance it.

        A directional light with zero angle results in crisp clean shadows...
        5ce5d47e-7340-4b73-965e-478cfa6f3275-image.png

        Increasing it to 2-3 will soften edges....
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        • massimoM 離線
          massimo Moderator @Rich O Brien
          最後由 massimo 編輯

          Rich's ones are good advices. Even if the best HDRIs, for example P.Guthrie's and CGSource's ones just to name two, don't need any extra sun because produce nice shadows, most of them need a bit of boost.
          Does Rayscaper have something like this however?

          Cattura.JPG

          I mean that you can move the sun in the physical sky until it will match the one in the HDRI. Because if not would be really difficult to align the two suns and this could lead to a fake result.

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          • Rich O BrienR 離線
            Rich O Brien Moderator @massimo
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            @massimo said in Rayscaper, My trip down the road to adjumacation.:

            Does Rayscaper have something like this however?

            No, it's guesswork if you want to align HDR sun and a directional light.

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            • massimoM 離線
              massimo Moderator @Rich O Brien
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              @Rich-O-Brien Ok, maybe a suggestion for the next release then.😉

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              • Mike AmosM 離線
                Mike Amos @Rich O Brien
                最後由 Mike Amos 編輯

                @Rich-O-Brien

                On the subject of artificial lighting, is there a way to introduce a 'glow' to the light unit somehow? Something to essentially, mimic a lightbulb.

                Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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                • Mike AmosM 離線
                  Mike Amos @Mike Amos
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                  Moved on somewhat.12 1h 17m 24s GPU.jpg

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                  • Rich O BrienR 離線
                    Rich O Brien Moderator @Mike Amos
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                    @Mike-Amos said in Rayscaper, My trip down the road to adjumacation.:

                    On the subject of artificial lighting, is there a way to introduce a 'glow' to the light unit somehow? Something to essentially, mimic a lightbulb.

                    A couple of versions back there was a way. But at the moment it seems to me there's a bug with having both emissive materials and lights in a scene.

                    I need to test more to see if that is the case.

                    But to your bulb appearance query. I couldn't get any shader to respect how light should behave as it passes through a frosted glass. When I did get close the render times weren't worth the effort. It also crashed a few times during testing so that dampens my enthusiasm a tad.

                    I will try though. Thomas would benefit from seeing where shaders are not doing what is expected from a users point of reference.

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                    • Mike AmosM 離線
                      Mike Amos @Rich O Brien
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                      @Rich-O-Brien

                      I was wondering if a different layer may help but going back to renditioner, which had a similar method, it may make no discernable difference.

                      Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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                      • Mike AmosM 離線
                        Mike Amos @Mike Amos
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                        @Mike-Amos

                        What I have so far, I placed a flat plain just behind the emitter light (Directional) and reduced the opacity a lot. there is some room for improvement with temp etc but a start.

                        Emission.jpg

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                        • Rich O BrienR 離線
                          Rich O Brien Moderator @Mike Amos
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                          @Mike-Amos

                          54f612df-b978-47da-bd28-380bd07c252c-image.png

                          Here was a test I did yesterday. The bulb has a Glass shader with Roughness and Transparent Shadows.

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                          Inside I put a Sphere Light. Its not behaving right though. I still believe that lights and the values needed are off.

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                            pixelcruncher Extension Creator @Mike Amos
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                            @Mike-Amos The missing skirting board and lights, was that caused by a bug in Rayscaper?

                            I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

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                              pixelcruncher Extension Creator @Mike Amos
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                              @Mike-Amos

                              You can use fake emission. - This will give objects a glowy appearance, but they are not really lights, so they won't shine on the surrounding objects. Using the fake emission option will also reduce render times.

                              In the below image, the left sphere has normal emission and the right sphere has fake emission.

                              ba44f366-b070-463d-a739-fe5c094358fc-image.png

                              I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

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                                pixelcruncher Extension Creator @Rich O Brien
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                                @Rich-O-Brien This looks indeed buggy, thanks for the information and I will look into this problem.

                                I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

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                                • Bryan KB 離線
                                  Bryan K @Mike Amos
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                                  @Mike-Amos said in Rayscaper, My trip down the road to adjumacation.:

                                  @Bryan-K

                                  Ta mate, feedback always helpful. Building and rendering the scene can lead to missing/ignoring stuff.

                                  I hear ya. Happens to me all the time. 😉

                                  See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                  • Bryan KB 離線
                                    Bryan K
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                                    Oh that last one is damn good!

                                    See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

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                                    • Mike AmosM 離線
                                      Mike Amos @Bryan K
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                                      @Bryan-K

                                      I have notioced glitching and pixel loss on the monitor but a pixel fitness test proves the monito is fine and the graphics cards GPU is the culprit, probably one of the issues I have had since I got this pc. A nuisance but that's folks life........

                                      Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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                                      • Mike AmosM 離線
                                        Mike Amos @Mike Amos
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                                        My last post was not at anyone, that bleep thing is a pain. Just a cmooent in the thread about the experience of the process of rendering the model. I can no longer render with Rayscaper probably due to the graphics card/gpu. Soon have the beast off for repair though.

                                        Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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                                        • Mike AmosM 離線
                                          Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                                          最後由 Rich O Brien 編輯

                                          @Mike-Amos

                                          Well, the beast has been received at the treatment centre so I am running the old machine, similar size etc so no surprises it looks and smells the same.
                                          The internal dimensions are 12'square for the main rooms with a 5 foot bathroom and entry downstairs.

                                          Entourage and some tweaks are all for the model I think then get some attention to the lighting!

                                          For some reason when selecting gpu render, this pc reverts from 2748 x 1048 to 1000 x 1000 pixel size.

                                          Boxing 4 300 Sampless 7m 47s gpu.png

                                          Absentia mortis praesentiam vitae probat, vita autem est argumentum constantiae.

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                                          • Mike AmosM 離線
                                            Mike Amos @Mike Amos
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                                            @Mike-Amos

                                            Well, had a thunk to add a reading light over the desk, balance. I still do not have it yet but, I am looking.

                                            Peace out.

                                            Boxing 5 300 Sampless 30m 41s gpu.jpg

                                            Lightened in Irfanview. The original was blurry dark.

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