sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    ℹ️ Licensed Extensions | FredoBatch, ElevationProfile, FredoSketch, LayOps, MatSim and Pic2Shape will require license from Sept 1st More Info

    Rayscaper, My trip down the road to adjumacation.

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved WIP
    176 Posts 8 Posters 1.0k Views 7 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Mike AmosM Offline
      Mike Amos @pixelcruncher
      last edited by

      @pixelcruncher

      Moving onwards, some of the lights appear to have gone AWOL but then, so has the skirting board.......

      9 17m 52s I.jpg

      pixelcruncherP 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • pixelcruncherP Offline
        pixelcruncher Extension Creator @Mike Amos
        last edited by

        @Mike-Amos sounds like a bug. Let's fix that.

        Do you mind sending me your most recent scene again?

        • What is the name of the light component or components that disappeared?
        • Is the skirting board modeled as geometry at the bottom of the wall? I will check that out as well once I have your model file.

        Cheers,
        Thomas

        I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

        Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • Mike AmosM Offline
          Mike Amos @pixelcruncher
          last edited by

          @pixelcruncher

          The lights are directional lights, the skirting board is geometry that has been removed from Sketchup the model, pardon the pun.

          I am concerned that memory handling is an issue and will probably remain that way until the basic hardware is fixed, should go off for repair this week. Crossed fingers included.

          Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • Mike AmosM Offline
            Mike Amos @Mike Amos
            last edited by

            @Mike-Amos

            OK, replaced the missing skirting board and put the lights back. Wotcha fink folks?

            10 19m 39s GPU.png

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • Bryan KB Offline
              Bryan K
              last edited by Bryan K

              Overall, really nice, but I would change the light temp (seems kinds of orange-ish yellow in this shot) and up the exposure just a but more.

              Just a little less orange in the light. Natural light is orange-ish yellow.

              See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

              Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • Mike AmosM Offline
                Mike Amos @Bryan K
                last edited by

                @Bryan-K

                Ta mate, feedback always helpful. Building and rendering the scene can lead to missing/ignoring stuff.

                Rich O BrienR pixelcruncherP Bryan KB 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator @Mike Amos
                  last edited by

                  @Mike-Amos If the sun coming in the window is a directional light you should raise the angle values slightly to soften the shadow.

                  I sometime mix both HDRIs and Directional Lights to get the light the way I want it.

                  HDRs are great but some might offer you the background you want but not the light direction or power. Adding a directional to give you more artistic controls is sometimes a good hack.

                  Be mindful of power values and balance it.

                  A directional light with zero angle results in crisp clean shadows...
                  5ce5d47e-7340-4b73-965e-478cfa6f3275-image.png

                  Increasing it to 2-3 will soften edges....
                  e114e816-bf33-4ab9-abe2-47fd5d945a50-image.png

                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

                  massimoM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                  • massimoM Offline
                    massimo Moderator @Rich O Brien
                    last edited by massimo

                    Rich's ones are good advices. Even if the best HDRIs, for example P.Guthrie's and CGSource's ones just to name two, don't need any extra sun because produce nice shadows, most of them need a bit of boost.
                    Does Rayscaper have something like this however?

                    Cattura.JPG

                    I mean that you can move the sun in the physical sky until it will match the one in the HDRI. Because if not would be really difficult to align the two suns and this could lead to a fake result.

                    Rich O BrienR 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                    • Rich O BrienR Offline
                      Rich O Brien Moderator @massimo
                      last edited by

                      @massimo said in Rayscaper, My trip down the road to adjumacation.:

                      Does Rayscaper have something like this however?

                      No, it's guesswork if you want to align HDR sun and a directional light.

                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

                      massimoM Mike AmosM 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
                      • massimoM Offline
                        massimo Moderator @Rich O Brien
                        last edited by

                        @Rich-O-Brien Ok, maybe a suggestion for the next release then.πŸ˜‰

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                        • Mike AmosM Offline
                          Mike Amos @Rich O Brien
                          last edited by Mike Amos

                          @Rich-O-Brien

                          On the subject of artificial lighting, is there a way to introduce a 'glow' to the light unit somehow? Something to essentially, mimic a lightbulb.

                          Mike AmosM Rich O BrienR pixelcruncherP 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • Mike AmosM Offline
                            Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                            last edited by

                            Moved on somewhat.12 1h 17m 24s GPU.jpg

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                            • Rich O BrienR Offline
                              Rich O Brien Moderator @Mike Amos
                              last edited by

                              @Mike-Amos said in Rayscaper, My trip down the road to adjumacation.:

                              On the subject of artificial lighting, is there a way to introduce a 'glow' to the light unit somehow? Something to essentially, mimic a lightbulb.

                              A couple of versions back there was a way. But at the moment it seems to me there's a bug with having both emissive materials and lights in a scene.

                              I need to test more to see if that is the case.

                              But to your bulb appearance query. I couldn't get any shader to respect how light should behave as it passes through a frosted glass. When I did get close the render times weren't worth the effort. It also crashed a few times during testing so that dampens my enthusiasm a tad.

                              I will try though. Thomas would benefit from seeing where shaders are not doing what is expected from a users point of reference.

                              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

                              Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • Mike AmosM Offline
                                Mike Amos @Rich O Brien
                                last edited by

                                @Rich-O-Brien

                                I was wondering if a different layer may help but going back to renditioner, which had a similar method, it may make no discernable difference.

                                Mike AmosM 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Mike AmosM Offline
                                  Mike Amos @Mike Amos
                                  last edited by

                                  @Mike-Amos

                                  What I have so far, I placed a flat plain just behind the emitter light (Directional) and reduced the opacity a lot. there is some room for improvement with temp etc but a start.

                                  Emission.jpg

                                  Rich O BrienR 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator @Mike Amos
                                    last edited by

                                    @Mike-Amos

                                    54f612df-b978-47da-bd28-380bd07c252c-image.png

                                    Here was a test I did yesterday. The bulb has a Glass shader with Roughness and Transparent Shadows.

                                    03b0aa68-bb3d-453c-ae3a-9566c8f0355c-image.png

                                    Inside I put a Sphere Light. Its not behaving right though. I still believe that lights and the values needed are off.

                                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

                                    pixelcruncherP 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • pixelcruncherP Offline
                                      pixelcruncher Extension Creator @Mike Amos
                                      last edited by

                                      @Mike-Amos The missing skirting board and lights, was that caused by a bug in Rayscaper?

                                      I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • pixelcruncherP Offline
                                        pixelcruncher Extension Creator @Mike Amos
                                        last edited by

                                        @Mike-Amos

                                        You can use fake emission. - This will give objects a glowy appearance, but they are not really lights, so they won't shine on the surrounding objects. Using the fake emission option will also reduce render times.

                                        In the below image, the left sphere has normal emission and the right sphere has fake emission.

                                        ba44f366-b070-463d-a739-fe5c094358fc-image.png

                                        I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • pixelcruncherP Offline
                                          pixelcruncher Extension Creator @Rich O Brien
                                          last edited by

                                          @Rich-O-Brien This looks indeed buggy, thanks for the information and I will look into this problem.

                                          I'm the developer of Rayscaper: https://rayscaper.com/ - Fast and easy rendering for SketchUp.

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • Bryan KB Offline
                                            Bryan K @Mike Amos
                                            last edited by

                                            @Mike-Amos said in Rayscaper, My trip down the road to adjumacation.:

                                            @Bryan-K

                                            Ta mate, feedback always helpful. Building and rendering the scene can lead to missing/ignoring stuff.

                                            I hear ya. Happens to me all the time. πŸ˜‰

                                            See my portfolio at https://delphiscousin.blogspot.com/

                                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 3
                                            • 4
                                            • 5
                                            • 8
                                            • 9
                                            • 3 / 9
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Buy SketchPlus
                                            Buy SUbD
                                            Buy WrapR
                                            Buy eBook
                                            Buy Modelur
                                            Buy Vertex Tools
                                            Buy SketchCuisine
                                            Buy FormFonts

                                            Advertisement