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    • K 離線
      kaas
      最後由 編輯

      If I could ask the experts; I'm totally new to subD. Trying it out for making furniture.
      Started making the frame for a Stack Stove Cubi. Whats the best strategy for the indicated areas? The easy way is to just continue the lines from the horizontal frame onto the leg. But I'm trying to keep the polycount as low as possible as well.
      Any suggestions?


      stackCubi_leg.jpg


      stackCubi_leg.skp

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      • HornOxxH 離線
        HornOxx
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        Hi Kaas
        I would recommend Tig´s Split Tools which generate quads at the connection points like sketched below.

        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43376
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcGGcLndeTE


        Split Tools.jpg

        never trust a skinny cook

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        • HieruH 離線
          Hieru
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          Thanks Thomas 👍

          www.davidhier.co.uk

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          • HieruH 離線
            Hieru
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            @Kaas

            Sometimes you can bend over backwards to keep loops to a minimum (see examples either side of central control meshes)...

            CornerControl.jpg

            ...only to find that there isn't that much difference in the poly count:

            CornerSubD.jpg

            In this instance you might even find that using RoundCorners is the most economic and efficient way to model this form.


            Corner.skp

            www.davidhier.co.uk

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            • K 離線
              kaas
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              @HorNoxx; thanks for the suggestion. I already found and use that gem by TIG.
              @Hieru; thanks for the effort and insight. It confirms my idea that subD in some cases might lead to more faces than conventional methods like roundcorner or native tools. Still learning though and lots of fun.


              cubi.jpg


              stackStove_cubi_test1.skp

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              • HieruH 離線
                Hieru
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                Happy to help 👍 . I'll take a look at your model tomorrow, but from the looks of things your workflow is coming along nicely (certainly more advanced than when I was starting out).

                One thing I will add is that sometimes the extra geometry is worth it e.g. for UV mapping or selling models in different formats.

                On the topic of UV mapping, I suspect that my left-hand control mesh might be the better approach for mapping. Hopefully someone who knows more about UV unwrapping will be able to confirm or refute this.

                www.davidhier.co.uk

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                • K 離線
                  kaas
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                  @hieru said:

                  On the topic of UV mapping, I suspect that my left-hand control mesh might be the better approach for mapping. Hopefully someone who knows more about UV unwrapping will be able to confirm or refute this.

                  I was thinking about the mapping as well. there is some stretching visible so need to fix those. Its lots of fun. Artisan experience from few years ago helps a lot - its knife tool as well.

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                  • HieruH 離線
                    Hieru
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                    I still use Artisan where SubD isn't appropriate, but like you I use it in conjunction with SubD. As well as the knife tool I use it to preview subdivision as I'm modelling - mostly because it won't triangulate areas I haven't finished quad modelling, but also because it can give a more detailed preview of the flow and detail of the subdivision.

                    www.davidhier.co.uk

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                    • K 離線
                      kaas
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                      Wish: a universal toggle all SubD on/off (selected maybe) as right click option would be welcome. If you have an assembly of several subD's this is nice to have.

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                      • HieruH 離線
                        Hieru
                        最後由 編輯

                        Isn't that in the works Thomas?

                        www.davidhier.co.uk

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                        • HieruH 離線
                          Hieru
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                          Just found afew minutes to look at your model properly Kaas. Really nice job.

                          I couldn't help putting on my Quad Police uniform 😆 and tackling a few unwanted tris (I lost a few loops in the process too).

                          I've highlighted the main areas that have been modified.

                          stackStove_cubi_test2.jpg


                          stackStove_cubi_test2.skp

                          www.davidhier.co.uk

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                          • K 離線
                            kaas
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                            Much appreciated Hieru, I like the Quad Police. Your changes seem very logical. Thanks.

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                            • Rich O BrienR 離線
                              Rich O Brien Moderator
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                              @hieru said:

                              Isn't that in the works Thomas?

                              http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=142064

                              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp 📖

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                              • ithilI 離線
                                ithil
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                                I tried to make a model for cutting plywood


                                s1.jpg


                                s2.jpg


                                s3.jpg

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                                • pbacotP 離線
                                  pbacot
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                                  Wow, Ithil!

                                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  • HornOxxH 離線
                                    HornOxx
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                                    @ithil said:

                                    I tried to make a model for cutting plywood

                                    I love it!! - please continue this report...

                                    never trust a skinny cook

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                                    • cottyC 離線
                                      cotty
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                                      Some very nice SubD examples (together with QuadFaceTools, VertexTools, ...) from "Winning with SketchUp"...
                                      https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22winning+with+sketchup%22+subd

                                      my SketchUp gallery

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                                      • soloS 離線
                                        solo
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                                        @collage architecture said:

                                        Still learning the workflow in quad and vertices.

                                        Advertising removed and warning issued.

                                        http://www.solos-art.com

                                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        • Collage ArchitectureC 離線
                                          Collage Architecture
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                                          Still learning the workflow in quad and vertices.

                                          sorry for mistake I've made,I don't know how to post an image..I'm still learning how to manage quads and vertices, Thomthom's toolset is a magic

                                          http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161018/0b2e014a72f17d8b0a950a7c0a4e57f3.jpg

                                          I love Sketchup

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                                          • cottyC 離線
                                            cotty
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                                            Another simple example...

                                            redgreen.jpg


                                            redgreen.skp

                                            my SketchUp gallery

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