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    • HieruH 離線
      Hieru
      最後由 編輯

      Or how about this? Here I've rebuilt the form using 6-sided openings...much more economical!
      CylinderWithHoles-V3.jpg


      CylinderWithHoles-V3.skp

      www.davidhier.co.uk

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      • HieruH 離線
        Hieru
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        Two versions of a simple cylinder with a bevelled edge. The second version (bottom) is for situations where you can't get away with a 6-sided shape.
        cylinder.jpg


        Cylinder.skp

        www.davidhier.co.uk

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        • Rich O BrienR 離線
          Rich O Brien Moderator
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          Too many poles. 3 and 5 sided converging quads.

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          • HieruH 離線
            Hieru
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            Last one for today: joining two pipes of the same diameter.
            joiningpipe.jpg
            This one is significantly different to the reference as I couldn't figure out how to join the pipes without distorting the bottom pipe and making it non-cylindrical (see circled area).
            pipe.jpg


            JoiningPipe.skp

            www.davidhier.co.uk

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            • HieruH 離線
              Hieru
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              @rich o brien said:

              Too many poles. 3 and 5 sided converging quads.

              Presumably that makes it difficult for UV mapping?

              Edit: I was obviously over-thinking things again...
              cylinder-2.jpg

              www.davidhier.co.uk

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              • olisheaO 離線
                olishea
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                Yeah you nailed it with CylinderWithHoles-V3. Sometimes you think there is no other possible way of doing it....then you come back to the model and think Ohhhhhh! Great examples and thanks for posting here! 👍

                Your pipe is better than the example. The area you circled is an N-gon. 😉 I guess the reason they did that was to reduce the "pinch" of the pole that you have in your model. They should have used another loop though. I love subdivision modelling; so many different outcomes from very subtle changes. 😄

                Would be cool if we had a "circularize" plugin for sketchup, you could click on specific rectangles and convert them into squares. Or maybe create an offset square face within the rectangle. Would be nice to be able to specify how many edges so you could even offset a triangle, square, pentagon etc etc....

                This would help creating circular holes in peculiar shapes. I use this tool in Wings 3D quite often, maybe I'll ask TIG about it....maybe call it Offset Circle where you can choose the amount of edges the offset circle has.

                oli

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                • HieruH 離線
                  Hieru
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                  @olishea said:

                  Yeah you nailed it with CylinderWithHoles-V3. Sometimes you think there is no other possible way of doing it....then you come back to the model and think Ohhhhhh! Great examples and thanks for posting here! 👍

                  Thanks 👍

                  @olishea said:

                  Would be cool if we had a "circularize" plugin for sketchup, you could click on specific rectangles and convert them into squares. Or maybe create an offset square face within the rectangle. Would be nice to be able to specify how many edges so you could even offset a triangle, square, pentagon etc etc....

                  This would help creating circular holes in peculiar shapes. I use this tool in Wings 3D quite often, maybe I'll ask TIG about it....maybe call it Offset Circle where you can choose the amount of edges the offset circle has.

                  +1 Definitely sounds like something that would come in handy.

                  www.davidhier.co.uk

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                  • bazB 離線
                    baz
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                    David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".
                    If this were to be hived off to a separate thread, you would find many lurkers and contributors I reckon, but I find it a bit complicated for my poor brain.

                    What about a new thread called... "Extremely bloody complicated Artisan examples with lots of esoteric technical terms"

                    Sorry 😉

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                    • Rich O BrienR 離線
                      Rich O Brien Moderator
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                      @hieru said:

                      Presumably that makes it difficult for UV mapping?

                      It can when you try to relax the UVs around poles because the quads are unable to form square shapes.

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                      • olisheaO 離線
                        olishea
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                        @baz said:

                        David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".

                        How can you get more simple than cylinders and pipes? 😉

                        Unfortunately you have to use some jargon. I hate it too.

                        oli

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                        • cottyC 離線
                          cotty
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                          Should I delete "Simple" in the topic headline?

                          my SketchUp gallery

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                          • bazB 離線
                            baz
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                            @olishea said:

                            @baz said:

                            David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".

                            How can you get more simple than cylinders and pipes? 😉

                            Unfortunately you have to use some jargon. I hate it too.

                            Point taken, perhaps a link or info on some jargon busting, Geometry for Artison 101?.
                            For example 'N-gons'???

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                            • Rich O BrienR 離線
                              Rich O Brien Moderator
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                              @baz

                              polygon or tri-gon = triangle
                              quad = 4 sided polygon
                              n-gon = more than 4 sided polygon (replace n with the numbers of sides)

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                              • olisheaO 離線
                                olishea
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                                Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

                                Link Preview Image
                                Subdivision Modelling

                                Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

                                favicon

                                (theorangeduck.com)

                                oli

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                                • olisheaO 離線
                                  olishea
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  @cotty said:

                                  Should I delete "Simple" in the topic headline?

                                  No, because these are still relatively simple. I think it was just the jargon that was getting out of control. 😆

                                  oli

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                                  • Rich O BrienR 離線
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    anyone is free to ask what's being said.

                                    it is something worth learning.

                                    @cotty

                                    we have a preliminary wiki in dev if you are interested in porting this thread to that at some point.

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                                    • HieruH 離線
                                      Hieru
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                                      Maybe some of my examples are more 'intermediate' - part way between basic primitives and complex objects like soft furnishings or vehicles?

                                      I don't want to bloat the thread, so perhaps I should start a new topic just for the examples I've been reinterpreting for SU?

                                      In the mean time, here's a faceted hexagonal form that blends into a cylinder (sort of like a screwdriver handle).

                                      handle.jpg

                                      I would have liked to have achieved this with quads only, but I couldn't figure out a solution.

                                      www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                      • pilouP 離線
                                        pilou
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                                        Maybe this can help you 😉

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • bazB 離線
                                          baz
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                                          @olishea said:

                                          Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Subdivision Modelling

                                          Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

                                          favicon

                                          (theorangeduck.com)

                                          Thanks Oli, that's a great article, a must read I'd say. The 2 videos are very good too.

                                          I've just reread the 'esoteric' posts, and to my surprise I now have a glimmer of understanding.

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                                          • HieruH 離線
                                            Hieru
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            Maybe this can help you 😉

                                            Can you see the images on that thread? Most of them are missing for me, even when I'm logged in.

                                            www.davidhier.co.uk

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