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    Rich O Brien Moderator
    last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 11:23

    @hieru said:

    Presumably that makes it difficult for UV mapping?

    It can when you try to relax the UVs around poles because the quads are unable to form square shapes.

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      olishea
      last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 12:19

      @baz said:

      David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".

      How can you get more simple than cylinders and pipes? ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Unfortunately you have to use some jargon. I hate it too.

      oli

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        cotty
        last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 13:00

        Should I delete "Simple" in the topic headline?

        my SketchUp gallery

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          baz
          last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 13:23

          @olishea said:

          @baz said:

          David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".

          How can you get more simple than cylinders and pipes? ๐Ÿ˜‰

          Unfortunately you have to use some jargon. I hate it too.

          Point taken, perhaps a link or info on some jargon busting, Geometry for Artison 101?.
          For example 'N-gons'???

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            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 13:50

            @baz

            polygon or tri-gon = triangle
            quad = 4 sided polygon
            n-gon = more than 4 sided polygon (replace n with the numbers of sides)

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              olishea
              last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 15:27

              Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

              Link Preview Image
              Subdivision Modelling

              Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

              favicon

              (theorangeduck.com)

              oli

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                olishea
                last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 15:28

                @cotty said:

                Should I delete "Simple" in the topic headline?

                No, because these are still relatively simple. I think it was just the jargon that was getting out of control. ๐Ÿ˜†

                oli

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                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 15:35

                  anyone is free to ask what's being said.

                  it is something worth learning.

                  @cotty

                  we have a preliminary wiki in dev if you are interested in porting this thread to that at some point.

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                    Hieru
                    last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 16:11

                    Maybe some of my examples are more 'intermediate' - part way between basic primitives and complex objects like soft furnishings or vehicles?

                    I don't want to bloat the thread, so perhaps I should start a new topic just for the examples I've been reinterpreting for SU?

                    In the mean time, here's a faceted hexagonal form that blends into a cylinder (sort of like a screwdriver handle).

                    handle.jpg

                    I would have liked to have achieved this with quads only, but I couldn't figure out a solution.

                    www.davidhier.co.uk

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 16 Jun 2014, 16:34

                      Maybe this can help you ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        baz
                        last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 00:19

                        @olishea said:

                        Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

                        Link Preview Image
                        Subdivision Modelling

                        Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

                        favicon

                        (theorangeduck.com)

                        Thanks Oli, that's a great article, a must read I'd say. The 2 videos are very good too.

                        I've just reread the 'esoteric' posts, and to my surprise I now have a glimmer of understanding.

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                          Hieru
                          last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 09:56

                          @unknownuser said:

                          Maybe this can help you ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          Can you see the images on that thread? Most of them are missing for me, even when I'm logged in.

                          www.davidhier.co.uk

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 13:01

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Can you see the images on that thread? Most of them are missing for me, even when I'm logged in.

                            I see all images without to be logged! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              olishea
                              last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 13:05

                              @baz said:

                              I've just reread the 'esoteric' posts, and to my surprise I now have a glimmer of understanding.

                              Great news Baz. It wasn't intended to be esoteric. It's just difficult to explain things without using some sort of field-specific language.

                              oli

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                                Hieru
                                last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 13:49

                                @unknownuser said:

                                I see all images without to be logged! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                I've tried with IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome and get the same result. A few images show up, but the key ones are missing. I suppose it must be because the thread is so old and the missing images must have been hosted outside the forum.

                                I'll have a look around elsewhere and see if I can come up with a solution. Thanks for the link though ๐Ÿ‘

                                It's a pity there isn't an option with vertex tools that would only allow you to move geometry to positions where it won't triangulate.....a sort of lock-quads feature (if that makes sense?).

                                www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                                  last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 14:07

                                  @david

                                  I'm just throwing this out there but you are aware that vertex tools does respect QuadFace convention?

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 14:09

                                    @Hieru!
                                    I see what you mean! Sorry! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                                    Here there are all images but it's in French! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                      Rich O Brien Moderator
                                      last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 14:10

                                      @david

                                      to view that page use waybackmachine july 2012

                                      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                                        Hieru
                                        last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 15:01

                                        @rich o brien said:

                                        @david

                                        I'm just throwing this out there but you are aware that vertex tools does respect QuadFace convention?

                                        I haven't used it since my initial trial - I was just assuming from the videos that the gizmo distorted everything free-hand. Now I'll have to give it another go!

                                        www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                                          last edited by 17 Jun 2014, 15:03

                                          It doesn't.

                                          Also install Thom's AutoSmooth plugin to force quadface creation on nonplanar quads

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