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    • Rich O BrienR Offline
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      Too many poles. 3 and 5 sided converging quads.

      Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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      • HieruH Offline
        Hieru
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        Last one for today: joining two pipes of the same diameter.
        joiningpipe.jpg
        This one is significantly different to the reference as I couldn't figure out how to join the pipes without distorting the bottom pipe and making it non-cylindrical (see circled area).
        pipe.jpg


        JoiningPipe.skp

        www.davidhier.co.uk

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        • HieruH Offline
          Hieru
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          @rich o brien said:

          Too many poles. 3 and 5 sided converging quads.

          Presumably that makes it difficult for UV mapping?

          Edit: I was obviously over-thinking things again...
          cylinder-2.jpg

          www.davidhier.co.uk

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          • olisheaO Offline
            olishea
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            Yeah you nailed it with CylinderWithHoles-V3. Sometimes you think there is no other possible way of doing it....then you come back to the model and think Ohhhhhh! Great examples and thanks for posting here! ๐Ÿ‘

            Your pipe is better than the example. The area you circled is an N-gon. ๐Ÿ˜‰ I guess the reason they did that was to reduce the "pinch" of the pole that you have in your model. They should have used another loop though. I love subdivision modelling; so many different outcomes from very subtle changes. ๐Ÿ˜„

            Would be cool if we had a "circularize" plugin for sketchup, you could click on specific rectangles and convert them into squares. Or maybe create an offset square face within the rectangle. Would be nice to be able to specify how many edges so you could even offset a triangle, square, pentagon etc etc....

            This would help creating circular holes in peculiar shapes. I use this tool in Wings 3D quite often, maybe I'll ask TIG about it....maybe call it Offset Circle where you can choose the amount of edges the offset circle has.

            oli

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            • HieruH Offline
              Hieru
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              @olishea said:

              Yeah you nailed it with CylinderWithHoles-V3. Sometimes you think there is no other possible way of doing it....then you come back to the model and think Ohhhhhh! Great examples and thanks for posting here! ๐Ÿ‘

              Thanks ๐Ÿ‘

              @olishea said:

              Would be cool if we had a "circularize" plugin for sketchup, you could click on specific rectangles and convert them into squares. Or maybe create an offset square face within the rectangle. Would be nice to be able to specify how many edges so you could even offset a triangle, square, pentagon etc etc....

              This would help creating circular holes in peculiar shapes. I use this tool in Wings 3D quite often, maybe I'll ask TIG about it....maybe call it Offset Circle where you can choose the amount of edges the offset circle has.

              +1 Definitely sounds like something that would come in handy.

              www.davidhier.co.uk

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              • bazB Offline
                baz
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                David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".
                If this were to be hived off to a separate thread, you would find many lurkers and contributors I reckon, but I find it a bit complicated for my poor brain.

                What about a new thread called... "Extremely bloody complicated Artisan examples with lots of esoteric technical terms"

                Sorry ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
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                  @hieru said:

                  Presumably that makes it difficult for UV mapping?

                  It can when you try to relax the UVs around poles because the quads are unable to form square shapes.

                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                  • olisheaO Offline
                    olishea
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                    @baz said:

                    David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".

                    How can you get more simple than cylinders and pipes? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    Unfortunately you have to use some jargon. I hate it too.

                    oli

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                    • cottyC Offline
                      cotty
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                      Should I delete "Simple" in the topic headline?

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                      • bazB Offline
                        baz
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                        @olishea said:

                        @baz said:

                        David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".

                        How can you get more simple than cylinders and pipes? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Unfortunately you have to use some jargon. I hate it too.

                        Point taken, perhaps a link or info on some jargon busting, Geometry for Artison 101?.
                        For example 'N-gons'???

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                        • Rich O BrienR Offline
                          Rich O Brien Moderator
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                          @baz

                          polygon or tri-gon = triangle
                          quad = 4 sided polygon
                          n-gon = more than 4 sided polygon (replace n with the numbers of sides)

                          Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                          • olisheaO Offline
                            olishea
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                            Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

                            Link Preview Image
                            Subdivision Modelling

                            Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

                            favicon

                            (theorangeduck.com)

                            oli

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                            • olisheaO Offline
                              olishea
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                              @cotty said:

                              Should I delete "Simple" in the topic headline?

                              No, because these are still relatively simple. I think it was just the jargon that was getting out of control. ๐Ÿ˜†

                              oli

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                              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                anyone is free to ask what's being said.

                                it is something worth learning.

                                @cotty

                                we have a preliminary wiki in dev if you are interested in porting this thread to that at some point.

                                Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                                • HieruH Offline
                                  Hieru
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                                  Maybe some of my examples are more 'intermediate' - part way between basic primitives and complex objects like soft furnishings or vehicles?

                                  I don't want to bloat the thread, so perhaps I should start a new topic just for the examples I've been reinterpreting for SU?

                                  In the mean time, here's a faceted hexagonal form that blends into a cylinder (sort of like a screwdriver handle).

                                  handle.jpg

                                  I would have liked to have achieved this with quads only, but I couldn't figure out a solution.

                                  www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
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                                    Maybe this can help you ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • bazB Offline
                                      baz
                                      last edited by

                                      @olishea said:

                                      Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Subdivision Modelling

                                      Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

                                      favicon

                                      (theorangeduck.com)

                                      Thanks Oli, that's a great article, a must read I'd say. The 2 videos are very good too.

                                      I've just reread the 'esoteric' posts, and to my surprise I now have a glimmer of understanding.

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                                      • HieruH Offline
                                        Hieru
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                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Maybe this can help you ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        Can you see the images on that thread? Most of them are missing for me, even when I'm logged in.

                                        www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Can you see the images on that thread? Most of them are missing for me, even when I'm logged in.

                                          I see all images without to be logged! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • olisheaO Offline
                                            olishea
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                                            @baz said:

                                            I've just reread the 'esoteric' posts, and to my surprise I now have a glimmer of understanding.

                                            Great news Baz. It wasn't intended to be esoteric. It's just difficult to explain things without using some sort of field-specific language.

                                            oli

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