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    • Rich O BrienR 離線
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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      @hieru said:

      Presumably that makes it difficult for UV mapping?

      It can when you try to relax the UVs around poles because the quads are unable to form square shapes.

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      • olisheaO 離線
        olishea
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        @baz said:

        David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".

        How can you get more simple than cylinders and pipes? 😉

        Unfortunately you have to use some jargon. I hate it too.

        oli

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        • cottyC 離線
          cotty
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          Should I delete "Simple" in the topic headline?

          my SketchUp gallery

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          • bazB 離線
            baz
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            @olishea said:

            @baz said:

            David and Oli, fascinating as this is, I think you might be going a bit off-topic, as in "Simple Artisan examples".

            How can you get more simple than cylinders and pipes? 😉

            Unfortunately you have to use some jargon. I hate it too.

            Point taken, perhaps a link or info on some jargon busting, Geometry for Artison 101?.
            For example 'N-gons'???

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            • Rich O BrienR 離線
              Rich O Brien Moderator
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              @baz

              polygon or tri-gon = triangle
              quad = 4 sided polygon
              n-gon = more than 4 sided polygon (replace n with the numbers of sides)

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              • olisheaO 離線
                olishea
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                Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

                Link Preview Image
                Subdivision Modelling

                Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

                favicon

                (theorangeduck.com)

                oli

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                • olisheaO 離線
                  olishea
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                  @cotty said:

                  Should I delete "Simple" in the topic headline?

                  No, because these are still relatively simple. I think it was just the jargon that was getting out of control. 😆

                  oli

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                  • Rich O BrienR 離線
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                    anyone is free to ask what's being said.

                    it is something worth learning.

                    @cotty

                    we have a preliminary wiki in dev if you are interested in porting this thread to that at some point.

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                    • HieruH 離線
                      Hieru
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                      Maybe some of my examples are more 'intermediate' - part way between basic primitives and complex objects like soft furnishings or vehicles?

                      I don't want to bloat the thread, so perhaps I should start a new topic just for the examples I've been reinterpreting for SU?

                      In the mean time, here's a faceted hexagonal form that blends into a cylinder (sort of like a screwdriver handle).

                      handle.jpg

                      I would have liked to have achieved this with quads only, but I couldn't figure out a solution.

                      www.davidhier.co.uk

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                      • pilouP 離線
                        pilou
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                        Maybe this can help you 😉

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • bazB 離線
                          baz
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                          @olishea said:

                          Into to subdivision modelling and associated jargon:

                          Link Preview Image
                          Subdivision Modelling

                          Computer Science, Machine Learning, Programming, Art, Mathematics, Philosophy, and Short Fiction

                          favicon

                          (theorangeduck.com)

                          Thanks Oli, that's a great article, a must read I'd say. The 2 videos are very good too.

                          I've just reread the 'esoteric' posts, and to my surprise I now have a glimmer of understanding.

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                          • HieruH 離線
                            Hieru
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            Maybe this can help you 😉

                            Can you see the images on that thread? Most of them are missing for me, even when I'm logged in.

                            www.davidhier.co.uk

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                            • pilouP 離線
                              pilou
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                              @unknownuser said:

                              Can you see the images on that thread? Most of them are missing for me, even when I'm logged in.

                              I see all images without to be logged! 😮

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                              • olisheaO 離線
                                olishea
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                                @baz said:

                                I've just reread the 'esoteric' posts, and to my surprise I now have a glimmer of understanding.

                                Great news Baz. It wasn't intended to be esoteric. It's just difficult to explain things without using some sort of field-specific language.

                                oli

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                                • HieruH 離線
                                  Hieru
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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  I see all images without to be logged! 😮

                                  I've tried with IE, Firefox, Safari and Chrome and get the same result. A few images show up, but the key ones are missing. I suppose it must be because the thread is so old and the missing images must have been hosted outside the forum.

                                  I'll have a look around elsewhere and see if I can come up with a solution. Thanks for the link though 👍

                                  It's a pity there isn't an option with vertex tools that would only allow you to move geometry to positions where it won't triangulate.....a sort of lock-quads feature (if that makes sense?).

                                  www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                  • Rich O BrienR 離線
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                    @david

                                    I'm just throwing this out there but you are aware that vertex tools does respect QuadFace convention?

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                                    • pilouP 離線
                                      pilou
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                                      @Hieru!
                                      I see what you mean! Sorry! 😳

                                      Here there are all images but it's in French! 😉

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • Rich O BrienR 離線
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                        @david

                                        to view that page use waybackmachine july 2012

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                                        • HieruH 離線
                                          Hieru
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                                          @rich o brien said:

                                          @david

                                          I'm just throwing this out there but you are aware that vertex tools does respect QuadFace convention?

                                          I haven't used it since my initial trial - I was just assuming from the videos that the gizmo distorted everything free-hand. Now I'll have to give it another go!

                                          www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                          • Rich O BrienR 離線
                                            Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                            It doesn't.

                                            Also install Thom's AutoSmooth plugin to force quadface creation on nonplanar quads

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