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    • cottyC Offline
      cotty
      last edited by

      Nice find, thanks for sharing the link!

      (I've added an image as a preview, hope you don't mind)

      my SketchUp gallery

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      • HieruH Offline
        Hieru
        last edited by

        Just found this useful reference for subdivision proxies. These aren't Sketchup examples, but a lot of the methods should work well with Artisan and help people understand how to approach fairly common shapes.

        http://imgur.com/a/dEWXP

        hieru_18.png

        www.davidhier.co.uk

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        • HieruH Offline
          Hieru
          last edited by

          No problem Cotty.

          When I get time, I think I'll try and reproduce some of the examples with SU. It would also be great if we could get people to post requests/advice for SU proxies.

          www.davidhier.co.uk

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          • olisheaO Offline
            olishea
            last edited by

            @charly2008 said:

            I Need your Help. How do I get this quad faces with artisan. I only get this result (see photo below).

            You have an internal face where the hoops meet. Also you need to use "split donut" to split the ngons into quads.

            oli

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            • Rich O BrienR Offline
              Rich O Brien Moderator
              last edited by

              @olishea said:

              You have an internal face where the hoops meet. Also you need to use "split donut" to split the ngons into quads.

              Shame you weren't around in December when he needed to know πŸ˜•

              Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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              • olisheaO Offline
                olishea
                last edited by

                And everyone else! πŸ˜„ His query was answered, but not fully. πŸ˜›

                oli

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Good lad.

                  Thought I caught u mapping again.

                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                  • olisheaO Offline
                    olishea
                    last edited by

                    Some examples of how loops can affect hard edges in this recess.

                    Left to right:

                    Hard edge at base.
                    Hard edge at wall.
                    Double hard edge.
                    No hard edge.


                    proxy_examples.jpg

                    oli

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                    • HieruH Offline
                      Hieru
                      last edited by

                      Some subtle but important differences there Oli πŸ‘

                      www.davidhier.co.uk

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Cerebral pre modeling! πŸ˜‰

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • olisheaO Offline
                          olishea
                          last edited by

                          @hieru said:

                          It was certainly a worthwhile exercise as I learnt that n-gons in your proxy can be used to create better topology (see the areas highlighted in red).

                          Don't you mean lack of n-gons? Those highlighted red are quads.

                          oli

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                          • HieruH Offline
                            Hieru
                            last edited by

                            Yes you're right - doh! The proxy modelling and end result make much more sense now.

                            Normally I'd triangulate odd shaped quads in the same way I'd deal with n-gons. Now I know better.

                            www.davidhier.co.uk

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                            • olisheaO Offline
                              olishea
                              last edited by

                              haha yeah, i was confused for a minute! I couldn't understand how n-gons can make anything better.

                              It doesn't matter how "odd" the quad looks. If it's a quad it's a quad and will perform well. Sometimes you can't avoid triangles. It's too many poles that frustrate me. πŸ˜†

                              oli

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                              • HieruH Offline
                                Hieru
                                last edited by

                                @olishea said:

                                It doesn't matter how "odd" the quad looks. If it's a quad it's a quad and will perform well.

                                Lesson learned πŸ˜‰

                                I'll certainly never model proxy circular planes any other way from now on. If this shape is typical, there should be a lot to be learnt from the rest of the examples.

                                www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                • HieruH Offline
                                  Hieru
                                  last edited by

                                  Had some time to tackle one of the shapes from the topology reference guide. I've changed some of the modelling to make it easier/faster to achieve in Sketchup.

                                  It was certainly a worthwhile exercise as I learnt that n-gons in your proxy can be used to create better topology (see the areas highlighted in red).

                                  bolthead.jpg

                                  Edit: The red areas are quads rather than n-gons. They are however still very important when it comes to creating better topology.


                                  BoltHeadPrimitive.skp

                                  www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                  • HieruH Offline
                                    Hieru
                                    last edited by

                                    Another example. This time a cylinder with holes.

                                    CylinderWithHoles.jpg


                                    CylinderWithHoles.skp

                                    www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                    • olisheaO Offline
                                      olishea
                                      last edited by

                                      Very nice work.

                                      Just a quick note: Try using circles with 6 edges instead of 8. When you intersect a 6 sided circle in half with a line you get two halves of quads, if that makes sense. It doesn't really matter for this model, it's just something I should point out. You would end up with less poly too. The starting circle really determines how successful the subdivision is going to be; if you've tried using a strange amount of edges it becomes difficult to keep quads and the model becomes frustrating.


                                      Screen Shot 2014-06-15 at 15.44.25.png

                                      oli

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                                      • olisheaO Offline
                                        olishea
                                        last edited by

                                        Can you do something about the marked areas? Looks a bit strange to me having those stray edges, even though it does form a quad. The large triangles could possibly be avoided too, don't have time to look though.


                                        CylinderWithHoles1.jpg

                                        oli

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                                        • HieruH Offline
                                          Hieru
                                          last edited by

                                          I was simply copying one of the provided examples, but I'll see if there is a better way of doing it.

                                          www.davidhier.co.uk

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                                          • HieruH Offline
                                            Hieru
                                            last edited by

                                            Insets on a curved surface.

                                            CurvedInsets.jpg


                                            CurvedInsets.skp

                                            www.davidhier.co.uk

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