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    thomthom
    last edited by 31 Jan 2016, 23:42

    Yes, better documentation is indeed in need - as well as improving the tools. But docs are on the top of my list when I get home from my travels next week.

    I plan to set up a new site for QFT - move away from the BitBucket wiki.
    Better text and visuals describing the various features of QFT. GIFs to illustrate common topology pattern.

    And extend SUbD's site to include more examples of how various topology patterns subdivide.

    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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      cuttingedge
      last edited by 2 Feb 2016, 04:32

      I was thrilled by the panton chair example shared by Ithil3d on youtube. I thought I'll build one trying slightly different method. A good few minutes and here's what i got.

      model

      test render

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        HornOxx
        last edited by 2 Feb 2016, 06:33

        @cuttingedge said:

        ... I thought I'll build one trying slightly different method. A good few minutes and here's what i got...

        This is a very good SubD example!
        how often and unsuccessfully I tried exactly this chair 😛

        never trust a skinny cook

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          pilou
          last edited by 2 Feb 2016, 10:55

          Yes the difficulty with Subdivision modeling against the Nurbs modeling where you have yet all the curves of the model, is to imagine the "rustic" cubic form before it's transformation! 😄

          https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/1a/d5/a5/1ad5a5b1e29b783619d44f7751f6c285.jpg

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          Is beautiful that please without concept!
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            miikka1978
            last edited by 2 Feb 2016, 15:32

            Is there any plugin working like Blender's Add Loop cut, see link below? I think that this would be really useful when using SubD.

            https://www.blender.org/manual/modeling/meshes/editing/subdividing/loop_subdivide.html
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f4XKe8lZEU

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              ely862me
              last edited by 2 Feb 2016, 15:38

              If you look back a little you will see that we talk about that too, it's called Quad face tools, you can find it in the plugins library.

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                HornOxx
                last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 21:29

                ...completed the wing to a plane - certainly not a beauty 😕


                _Render 1600.jpg


                plane4_proxy.skp

                never trust a skinny cook

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                  JQL
                  last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 21:32

                  @hornoxx said:

                  ...completed the wing to a plane - certainly not a beauty 😕

                  Not bad either... but it was a very promising wing

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                    HornOxx
                    last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 21:40

                    @jql said:

                    ... but it was a very promising wing...

                    thanks
                    😆 ok - give this wing an other try

                    never trust a skinny cook

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 22:44

                      @unknownuser said:

                      certainly not a beauty

                      Yet a charm certain! 😉

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        Stinkie
                        last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 08:40

                        @thomthom said:

                        There are talks going on with various render engines to allow for them to render high-poly variants from the low-polys.

                        Nice! 👍

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                          optimaforever
                          last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 11:27

                          In the same order of idea, can you thomthom develop a quadchamfer4SU?
                          Ideally it would be a mix between the editability of SubD and the easiness of RoundCorner...
                          Roundcorner is good but it doesn't allow for editing. I have to keep a non-chamfered version in a temp layer if I need to edit it again. And SubD need manually offsetted lines to control the distance of chamfering. On complex models, it can quicky become a time-consuming burden, just to create chamfered edges, not to mention the file size and the memory footprint.

                          This TTQuadchamfer would be a quick 3D chamfer/fillet tool that automatically creates the needed lines offsets according to pre-entered parameters, which in return could allow easy re-editing, should the need arise. And afterward, one could tweak the fillet values edge by edge for more flexibility.

                          What do you think?

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 12:05

                            Got some visuals to illustrate expected result?

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              optimaforever
                              last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 13:15

                              @thomthom said:

                              Got some visuals to illustrate expected result?

                              Have you seen http://www.mariussilaghi.com/products/quad-chamfer ?

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                                gilles
                                last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 13:45

                                Streamliner, based on Norman E. Timbs 48 buick.


                                SREAMLINER.png

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                                  JQL
                                  last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 14:39

                                  @optimaforever said:

                                  This TTQuadchamfer would be a quick 3D chamfer/fillet tool that automatically creates the needed lines offsets according to pre-entered parameters, which in return could allow easy re-editing, should the need arise. And afterward, one could tweak the fillet values edge by edge for more flexibility.

                                  What do you think?

                                  Actually I'm simply not using SubD, because it would be the most fun plugin I'd have, but it's not really useful for what I need right now. I would have yet another toy to have fun with and deviate my attention for what I do for a living... I must resist...

                                  If you'd do it, it would be extremelly useful if you'd integrate it with SubD methodology and chamfer it only when subdividing, keeping UV's, allowing for creases worflow to be integrated too and, probably integrate it in the rendering workflow too.

                                  I didn't know it yet but if SubD would be able to produce that, it would turn into the most useful toy an architect that deals with archviz needs apart from the renderers themselves.

                                  Thanks for that feature request Optimaforever, I really hope Thomthom pulls that one off!

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 15:56

                                    @: Gilles where is the model ? 😉
                                    Inspiration Vrooum, vrooum! 💚
                                    blobcar.jpg


                                    car_v6.zip

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                      gilles
                                      last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 17:19

                                      @pilou said:

                                      @: Gilles where is the model ? 😉
                                      Inspiration Vrooum, vrooum! 💚
                                      [attachment=2:2ruqdqif]<!-- ia2 -->blobcar.jpg<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:2ruqdqif]


                                      STREAMLINER.skp

                                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                        Stinkie
                                        last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 21:07

                                        @optimaforever said:

                                        Have you seen http://www.mariussilaghi.com/products/quad-chamfer ?

                                        Oooh, it'd be great to have that in SU.

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                                          optimaforever
                                          last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 21:20

                                          @jql said:

                                          If you'd do it, it would be extremelly useful if you'd integrate it with SubD methodology and chamfer it only when subdividing, keeping UV's, allowing for creases worflow to be integrated too and, probably integrate it in the rendering workflow too.

                                          I didn't know it yet but if SubD would be able to produce that, it would turn into the most useful toy an architect that deals with archviz needs apart from the renderers themselves.

                                          Thanks for that feature request Optimaforever, I really hope Thomthom pulls that one off!

                                          Indeed, my next request would be that the quad chamfer only applies when rendering, a bit alla Skatter-way, with the "render only" option.

                                          I don't know if it's in the pipeline but I guess that having the SUbD not visible when working and only visible during rendertime would be an equally useful feature. A kind of general SUbD toggle on/off in the SUbD preferences. The thing is, there is always an SUbD object on which I forget to apply the subdivision before pushing on the render button (lazy me), and having a "all subd on when rendering" toggle button would save my ass for sure 🤢

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