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It's a bit dicey, tbh.

I am a proper Londoner, born and bread, I do like some of the Ocker phrasses though.

@mike amos said: The thing that most put me off Thea renderr was the licensing, it just made me think rip off. This annual subscription and monthly subscription thing is something I cannot get used to so went on to buy something I could use in perpetuity. Sorry if this ruffles feathers, just saying what I see and no doubt folk using it for commercial reasons will be happy enough. +1

Rich me old darling, thank you for the mind bending, over complicated and frankly beyond me workaround. You say: 'That contract is no longer in effect'. But that has nothing to do with my contract. You say: 'I would expect it to stop eventually'. Nobody told me the software was limited in that way. You say: 'Annoying? but expected.' Expected by who? Certainly not me. I am no lawyer, but natural justice seems to being abused here. C'mon, class action anyone? [image: VZ07_IntoThisWorld-B.jpg]

There are several threads about this issue on the official Trimble forum. Seems like you have to temporary disable your WindowsDefender to 'fix' this. Some strange technical thingie I can't reproduce. https://forums.sketchup.com/t/unable-to-update-sketchup-2023-due-to-a-md5-checksum-issue/223665

@rich o brien said: There's no need to update this forum because there's a shiny new one only around the corner. Just sorting out the last bits and pieces. Great news!

Nice, D5 Pro is $38 per month and the prize is $19 worth. They need to raise the bar to get any serious entries I'd say. Nothing entices me to try it out let alone write a review?

@panixia said: @baz said: Panixia, Can you tell me the name of the Plugin you are using for this? I have always only scaled circles to produce ellipses til now. Thanks. It's called "Tools on surface" and it's part of the Fredo bundle. I strongly reccomend to buy the bundle because every single plugin in that collection is absolutely a banger. (Pay attention to the fact that you also need the free libfredo6 shared library to make those plugins work). http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=76625#p76625 Yep. I also paid for the package and they are solid workman's tools I could not do without and saved me a lot of time and extra effort.

I believe some of you already have my flower model. By the way here is the vase + orchid. vase.zip

The dreaded ear worm, mine goes to the tune of hissing static for variety or something.

Well, I had to laugh, either that or go slightly madder. Just a little reminder that taking things back to basics is a good plan to be implementing when troubleshopoting.

Thanks. That helps as well.

He has been and remains a huge talent. A bit of optimism for the result of surgery does not go amiss.