@Mike-Amos Nice work mate

@Bryan-K Ta mate, replacing lost component library means I can rethink stuff too/

@Bryan-K Ta mate, never really convinced by prints on white goods but thought I would give it a go. Better version with a few tweaks and mats coming.

@L-i-am Appreciated mate, thanks. I know of developments when I was looking which included a simple arm on a low friction bar at the tope of the unit, sorry but I cannot find pictures, it was thirty years ago though. I did this for giggle and kicks, no doubt if I were seriuous about it I would look up knew (Pun intended) methods. In short, you are correct. Keeping the orientation of the 'needle' will be difficuilt even in the example you posted. Thanks mate, I appreciate you taking the time.

@mike amos said: Thanks mate, building a small scene to try iot out further. Years ago I did the same thing. Started from a glass mug on my table... then sightly add more and more things to the scene...

Biggest problem I have is actually sorting the little buggers but not a hardshiop tbh. The same image, different LUT. [image: JbaX_Thing17920p6hAffinityPlusLUT2R.jpg]

Ta mate.

Ta Rich, practice. You have not seen where the room mate sleeps. Think Harry Potter early days....... I am still having pc issues so until these are foxed am a little limited. Fun trying though.

Ta mate, changed the hdri and a few tweeks tbh.

Thanks mate.

Upstaiors for the next sequence. Not finished yet and some lights may change. [image: DvxG_Thing1495p1h20mR.jpg]

Looks like norton is scamming me for software hard sell for not much, fake reporting? [image: RHhs_Drivers2.jpg]

I've been following your Woes thread. I think you need to go back to the point of sale. Something is off with that device. Not something to find a solution to online. Use your warranty to get it resolved because your rig is a beast.

Artisan V1 is gone again......

Humanity's leadership leans towards conflict, cruelty and control. The powerful prosecute to keep power. It's sad. The eventual 'winners' are still losers. Even though we know it we plough on regardless. Repeating same scenarios over and over. The war on drugs, the war on terrorism, the war on disinformation, war on free speech, war on gender....its always the same. The world needs to demilitarize and get back to just getting along. We live in a cloud of pessimism and distraction. Hopefully the fog clears and the next generation have more sunny days.

I have the download no worries, have the license, it will not activate which is sad because v2 will not deploy and is imho, simply more complication than improvement.

@l i am said: Great work Mike, organic modelling is your forte Simply beautiful [image: CLYm_2023-10-25_131318C.jpg]

I thank you, I'm here until next, no wait up, I can't leave yet..................

Sorry folks, my sense of humour got the better of me and I know marketing types are getting a bit 'radical' with their concepts. How this will encourage folk into a paid version from the free I do not know but good luck to them. Marketing, a shorter way of saying, Obfuscation...... The company I bought my pc from earlier this year has on site repair, however, the contractor will do nothing unless I agree to them charging me a £250 software reinstall fee. There was no mention of this when I bought the pc so they can shove that where solar radiation is not an issue. Marketing.....

Ta mate, a few issues with geometry cropping up but that is how the cooking goes. Another F1 this coming weekend so slow progress.