What if there was no free version and the whole package was $200.00 (except a free educational version) increasing @ 10 percent per year for R&D?

Well that was surprisingly painless. just deleted V8 same problem. So deleted v2013 and re installed and all is 100 % well and good. All my plugins and other folders of concern were retained and bugspalts have vanished and icons showing up as 2013 Yyaaaaaay so happy !!

@wo3dan said: Alphabetic order up or down gives two options. Visibility order (visible=)up or down forms the other two.. Aha I got it now.... Sorry to waste your time folks, I feel like a dummy now. I had my layer box not wide enough so I was pressing the visibility option all the time, not realising that the( name) panel to the left was an actual panel... thinking it was just a header for all the layer names...sheeesh Maaaan, almost two years using sketchup and such a basic thing ...... anyhoooo, all is well now and I learned something new today ...Always a good thing Thanks for setting me straight... :O)

I did that the first few times with no success... tried it again, and lo and behold....success. Yipeeeee Big thank you Bjanzen.....

Holy Toledo..... I think I did it in paint..... Not exact, but will work.for now.... But I'd still like to know how to do this properly, as the texture is somewhat different from the first when tiled..Thanks :O) [image: eoE4_zushibricklganew.JPG]

Thanks For the tips guys.... I'll try both plugins... Jeff,the result you showed was just what I need.Much appreciated Thank heaven for all the plugin makers :O)

Thanks Jim for saving me some time. That worked real quick - once I entered each group or component- two clicks and all moved to another layer I knew there had to be a fast way. Sketucation once more to my rescue :O) I will have a look at Thomthom's selection tools too- Thanks for the tip Jeff.

Too funny... I must have been having a brain fart of a day... I feel Thanks for clearing that up...all is good now :O)

Ok now I get it. It was a backup file. I had always thought the back up file was the Autosave one, and never checked the difference between the two. You learn something every day and on Sketucation I learn several things each and every day.... Thanks to both of you for clearing that up... I'm glad its not my file or my computer ... Its just me

Thank you one and all.....Yep, it was reversed faces with a transparent material attached to it as you can see ......[image: i3V3_wilsonresidenceVer5IGreversefaces.jpg][image: 4NAx_2701render.jpg]

Any time, mate. Here is the link: http://www.google.hr/imgres?imgurl=http://openfootage.net/Openfootage/Vorschau/ContactSheetpaving.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.openfootage.net/%3Fp%3D65&h=800&w=800&sz=115&tbnid=ykaikAYi4FqPrM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpavement%2Btextures&hl=hr&usg=_5cN2P87RQ20pdQ-95py2QDJWqaY=&ei=jQkkS7uwMcqN The original file size is much larger. Cheers!

Nice ones, thanks (I have never dared to start making a tree actually - I know I'd lose my patience). Attached an image, too. [image: 7Xog_23Dtressgeneric.jpg]

Thank you Thomas for answering and providing that script...I'll give it a go :O)

Its ok I figured it out now, and have them .... now i just need to learn how these work LOL

Sorry to say but that card indeed seem to be an integrated chipset "only". Nowadays manufacturers simply build motherboards with these integrated graphics accelerator so that you don't need to put in a separate video card (this ha been the case with sound cards for long). But no matter what they state about their OpenGL capabilities, these chipsets are not capable of serious 3D work (like SU). And like if someone badly wants a good sound system at home because he is a hi-fi maniac and he needs to build in a more serious sound card than what the motherboard supports, the same way, you will need a real video card that fully supports OpenGL

Hello again, Thanks for the positive reviews. Please, if you have any questions, please feel free to contact me at gidion311@gmail.com Hello Alan, First, thank you for all the models on FormFonts. Modeling would not be the same without what is offered on FormFonts. I do have some model requests but maybe that’s for another time. Also, thank you for the heads up on the people components. I have not updated those components in about 5 years or so Might be time to do so now. Thanks all, Daniel Tal

Hi Rashad, First of all, specify your favourite image editor in your preferences window (Window menu on a PC) see below - I use Gimp to fine tune my images [image: nT6s_Application.jpg] Then when you want to edit an image used as texture on a face, right click > Texture > Edit texture image. This will open the image in your editor where you can resample and compress it to your needs and upon saving, SU will instantly refresh the texture while keeping its UV coordinates. Really handy tool introduced in SU 7. Note however that the Texture menu item in the context menu is only available if you right click on a single face - i.e. not on curved surfaces or groups/components. Scaling components (or anything) bearing textures will not affect the file size. The model infor > Statistics > Purge will purge everything "purgeable" i.e. (unused) components, materials, layers, styles (each of which can be purged from the respective dialogs/browsers individually, too). At the moment, you can only do this by right clicking a component (either in the model or in the Component browser) and "Save as..." It will save it as a separate skp file (which it is actually, only embedded into your model) and in your Explorer window you can see the file size. A good method therefore is to download the different components from the Warehouse in your internet browser, check their effective modelling (file size, polygon count etc.) and only then import them into your model. It would be cool to see the file size in the component browser especially bnow as the online Warehouse is so tightly integrated - hopefully once it will be implemented. I think that's it for now.

Yep that worked.... So easy when one knows how..Sheeesh LOL Thanks for the prompt reply :O)