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    • fredo6F 離線
      fredo6
      最後由 編輯

      Jeff,

      Not sure plugins are allowed in this challenge, and unless I am wrong, this could be done with the but normally Planar Shearing can be performed with FredoScale
      Jeff Challenge.gif

      Fredo

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      • Rich O BrienR 離線
        Rich O Brien Moderator
        最後由 編輯

        @Fredo

        Is your frame changing thickness? It does for me

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        • jason_marantoJ 離線
          jason_maranto
          最後由 編輯

          I got it accurate just using basic tools, but you have to do some contorting to get it done:(see this post for the file http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=401904#p401904)

          I misread the beginning of the thread and initially thought the dimensions were not important... which is why the first version did not achieve victory 👊

          Best,
          Jason.

          I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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          • pilouP 離線
            pilou
            最後由 編輯

            A little light in my deseperation? 😄

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • pbacotP 離線
              pbacot
              最後由 編輯

              [off:19rh2vop]
              @unknownuser said:

              The thing absolutly crazzy is that the Rotation tool
              seems accept just the base alignement as only good alignement! 😲 😲 😲
              I am totally depited! 😮

              I love this word![/off:19rh2vop]

              Yes if heights are not a given... Push pull the posts to the diagonal 💚

              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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              • Dave RD 離線
                Dave R
                最後由 編輯

                Jason, how do you determine the where the diagonals hit the sides of the posts?

                Fredo's example does result in a narrower board. It could also be achieved with native tools by selecting one end of the board and moving that end up.

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                • Dave RD 離線
                  Dave R
                  最後由 編輯

                  If you measure .5m up and down the verticals, the board is not going to be .5m thick.

                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                  • jason_marantoJ 離線
                    jason_maranto
                    最後由 編輯

                    The desired thickness is .5 meters -- so the first guides are each measured out to .5 meters from the main diagonal (the only one that is obvious and never changes).

                    So the next Diagonal can be found at intersections at .5 m guide up on the left post and .5 m guide down on the right post -- from there you delete the original guides and connect the diagonals with the line tool.

                    After that you pull off new guides to .5m from the bottom and top -- which again will give the corrected diagonal at the intersections on the left post and right post... the other diagonal has been known since the beginning(doesn't ever change).

                    All I used was the line tool, tape measure tool, and push pull.

                    Best,
                    Jason.

                    I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                    • fredo6F 離線
                      fredo6
                      最後由 編輯

                      @unknownuser said:

                      @Fredo

                      Is your frame changing thickness? It does for me

                      Ooops. I should have read the thread in details.
                      Then, it just need a dedicated plugin, this won't be a conform transformation

                      Fredo

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                      • jason_marantoJ 離線
                        jason_maranto
                        最後由 編輯

                        It is as I show in the updated file.
                        challenge_final.jpg
                        Best,
                        Jason.

                        I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                        • TIGT 離線
                          TIG Moderator
                          最後由 編輯

                          A "plugin free" solution that is accurate to 0.009mm...


                          DrawDiagonalRail.skp

                          TIG

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                          • thomthomT 離線
                            thomthom
                            最後由 編輯

                            @unknownuser said:

                            No need to change anything! 😎
                            With the fredo scale 😉
                            Just make the rotation on the top of the block! 💭
                            [attachment=1:1hqifa7e]<!-- ia1 -->yes.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:1hqifa7e]

                            [attachment=0:1hqifa7e]<!-- ia0 -->yes2.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1hqifa7e]

                            That changes the width of the board, doesn't it?

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • M 離線
                              mac1
                              最後由 編輯

                              rail rotation.jpg

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                              • pilouP 離線
                                pilou
                                最後由 編輯

                                No need to change anything! 😎
                                With the fredo scale Planar Shearing shown previus! 😉
                                Just make the rotation on the top of the block! 💭

                                Perfect! 👍
                                yes.jpg

                                yes2.jpg

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • thomthomT 離線
                                  thomthom
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  When testing I recommend you put the posts further apart as with near square shape deviances might be so small that you think you have a correct solution.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • TIGT 離線
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    Mac1

                                    How do you get the rotated guide pt to snap exactly onto the horizontal top guideline ?

                                    TIG

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                                    • pilouP 離線
                                      pilou
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      That changes the width of the board, doesn't it?

                                      No nothing is changed 😄
                                      You have just to draw the block box to modify on the ground, with any measures (just fit the 2 pilars )
                                      Nno need to push cut anything! 👍

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • Dave RD 離線
                                        Dave R
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        Pilou, when I used Fredo's method my board went from 5" wide to 3-1/16" wide. The length of the miter remained at 5", though. I'd say that's a change. Mac1's idea looks interesting.


                                        diagonal.png

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                                        • GaieusG 離線
                                          Gaieus
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          Is this "close enough"?


                                          PinkBoard-BlueBoard.png


                                          PinkBoard-BlueBoard.skp

                                          Gai...

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                                          • jason_marantoJ 離線
                                            jason_maranto
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            Absolute accuracy seems to be something that would be pretty easy since we know all of the measurements, including the first diagonal -- I would just rotate a copy of the diagonal around the midpoint to make the second diagonal, thus giving all 4 ending points for the shape... but I would need to calculate the specific degrees for the rotation, and I'm not well versed in that level of math.

                                            Definitely seems a plugin to make this is a need after all... if absolute accuracy is required.

                                            Best,
                                            Jason.

                                            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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