@unknownuser said: Your suggestion to reset the model axes seemed like it would be helpful, it at least sounded like it could be the solution. However, the option to reset the axes is greyed out; I presume they are then already in their default state. I did write, "If the model axes have been shifted ..." Since you haven't shared the SketchUp file there's no way I could know whether you had moved the axes or not. @unknownuser said: There's two sets of coordinate systems at play. One is the photomatch - pair of red and green dashed lines, red and green vanishing points, the yellow horizon and the yellow Origin point. The other is the model, or 3D space, with red, green and yellow axes, meeting at their own Zero point. Not really. When you are setting up the image for Match Photo you are setting up the camera to match the lens used to make the photo and aligning the image to the model axes. I have no way to identify how you got it shifted. I guess I will leave you to it.

With ThruPaint, use the Natural UV mode, not the QuadMesh UV mode. Your shape is not based on a quad mesh.

As of today, I can no longer download files from the 3D warehouse in 2020 format. I now have to download dae files and convert them.

SketchUp Make should still run on Windows 11 at least for now. No idea what will happen to Windows in the future. Keep in mind the embedded web connection hasn't been getting security updates for a few years in Windows 10 and hasn't had any in Windows 11 so there could be security issues. Keeping the computer disconnected from the web would help. SketchUp Pro can save back as far as V3.

Good idee Thank you really much

thank you for the reply. yes, zoom exte se save the day. still annoying though. I didn't have this trouble for 20 years of using SU.

right on Dave!

@bbrvvvvv said: Fredospline breaks the profile every time I try to edit a spline? Does anyone have an idea why? Thanks for the help, greatly appreciated. Do you have a model to illustrate the issue?

OK maybe I wasn't signed in on my laptop. If I sign in to the laptop before I leave home, can I use it offline at the jobsite?

OK, Saving it worked Rich, many thanks for that! [image: wpy3_1Untitled.png]

Thank you

I have used Vali architects for years, they are paid, but very good try valiarchitects.com Octavio

@dave r said: @khai said: ... all that to me is junk.... As a hobbyist using SketchUp 2017 Make (according to your forum profile), the change in the subscription price has no impact on you anyway. This is what I do. I have a dedicated computer for Sketchup Make 2017 because I've gotten so handy with it that I would hate to part with it. I get it that software maintenance is expensive, and an aging product like Sketchup is likely to fall down the priorities list for a company like Trimble. I looked at their financials page (linked on their website) https://investor.trimble.com/static-files/d848716e-e452-4d46-9606-ac7163a309c7. I'm not an expert, but it looks like they are raking in ~1.5B per quarter after expenses. But yes, the price they are asking for an updated version of Sketchup is too much for my little pocketses. If I was a bazillionnaire, I would buy Sketchup and open source it. I can only dream tho...

The recovered location is where you find .SKP copies of a model if SketchUp crashes, otherwise they are deleted as that model is closed. You need to have the AutoSave option set in Preferences for this to happen. The backup files are suffixed .SKB and are always saved with the model itself, again you need to have the backup option set in Preferences. You change the .SKB suffix into .SKP for SketchUp to be able to open it. A backup file is always one version behind the current model, and it is made whenever you save your model. There are no .BAK files in SketchUp. On a MAC the equivalent of a PC's .SKB is suffixed ~.SKP as the previous version of the model file...

@dentalez said: I realize that that is their ultimate goal, to get everyone to upgrade. Certainly that's part of it. They need to have customers to be able to afford developers and others along with the infrastructure required. And there's the shareholders to keep happy. Another part of it, though is that other software, operating systems, web browsers, etc., are constantly evolving or as in the case of internet browsers like IE, no longr supported by their makers. This kind of stuff creates problems for users. Of course it isn't practical to support older versions. Lots of reasons. @dentalez said: Personally my perpetual license at home I do not want to upgrade. I've bought every upgrade since version 2 for my use. I use it for both work and hobby. That's fine. You can continue using it. You might find issues one day if you are upgrading your OS that it evolves out from under the older version of SketchUp. You can cross that bridge if you get to it. That's been an issue for some Mac users with older versions of SU. @dentalez said: But if we as a company upgrade and I add one the new licenses to my home computer so I can work on company projects at home wouldn't that become the default and supersede all my models/SKU versions I have on my personal computer? if and when I remove the companies version would I be locked out of all my (Personal) years of work? No. Each version of SketchUp installs as a separate program. You could install SketchUp 2023 on your computer and log into it with the subscription license from your employer without affecting the older version of SketchUp you have installed. The old version won't be able to open files created in SU2023 unless you first backsave them in 23 or you use Eneroth's Open Newer Version extension to open the file in your old version. Installing the new version of SketchUp on your machine won't convert the existing SketchUp model files to 2023, though. You'd have to open them in 2023 and save them to do that. Personally I think there are a lot of nice things that have been added in the last several versions. I wouldn't want to go back to using an old version.