Thanks mirjman, I was wondering what it did.

Thank you , that makes things very straightforward and easy.

how 'bout that. it's right there. just one little folder away. thanks Gai

Mover will only work with groups and components http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2007/08/plugin-mover-2.html . And look at Render Plus plugins Space Design and Retools http://forums.renderplus.com/wiki/index.php?title=RpTools . Space Design is a free subset of RpTools. RpTools has additional things like making alpha channels within SU, a nice Component Explorer window, component axis aimer, PDF stuff, and eventually Flat Path will be reintroduced, etc. Al's move wizard will move individual bits of geometry.

Mmmm, I must check that asap...

@lekonna said: However the model should be always solid so it would be enough for me to just check the normals of the faces and compare those to the camera and if they are not opposite i could just reverse the face. If you imagine a box with 6 faces which are all aligned correctly, the 3 faces which are visible would have their normals match the camera and the three faces which are invisible would have their normals the opposite of the camera. So the "trick" is to determine which faces are visible, and which faces are obstructed by other faces. Todd Burch was working of a script to solve this problem, but I never heard if he got it finished. I don't know any easy way to determine if a face is visible or obscured in a particular view.

@daniel s said: Thank you TIG!! It works great!... this will save me a lot of time. And a question... because this i can´t done with sketchup.. i put an example on the attachment... is it possible with ruby? Thank you again! Daniel S Groups always have their bounding box square to the axes. Components do not. Try using components ?

TIG, you're so quick

Sure... I wouldn't even have said anything ifI hadn't thought it was OT regarding your thread. That's what I ment in my lates post above. I was wrong...

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Well, I wrote my own, stable, tested language handler. azuby

... and most Ruby programmers own this book: http://www.pragprog.com/titles/ruby - The Pickaxe But be warned: Sketchup includes Ruby 1.8.0 as far as I know. AND Sketchup does not come with most of the libraries mentioned in the book. If you can read German, search the old Sketchucation Sketchup forum for the German section / my topics. I've tried to introduce Sketchup-Ruby to a programming newby. azuby

Okay, thanks for your reply. I was actually thinking of writing a web dialog for this script at a later stage. Just thought I'd test some functionality first without it. I guess I'll have to dive into the sea of web dialogs then...

Hi Tomasz, Thanks for the trick, was able to save and open model in KT! Now all I have to do is learn how to get some good render!!!! Thanks again, Regards, Patrice

how about loading a complex model (with textures, transparent materials, sun activated, ...) and typing in Ruby Console Test.time_display

There's another option. Scale has lots of subtle 3D control. If only an edge is selected, tugging on the top/bottom, dead-center handle will only raise/lower an end. Tugging at one of the selected edge corner handles would lengthen/shorten the edge along its vector, etc... Selecting a face would be similar. Face and edge combinations can be scaled. Works swell while in hidden geometry. For the greatest control, orbit around the model so the cursor tugging on the handle is in front of some geometry. The closer the geometry is located the better. That's one way to harness inference - using neighboring geometry to finesse/steer the handles. Otherwise scale may seems to go wacko. Smoove and Smoove+Shift work, and an offset can be set for controlled, incremental bumping. But I don't use it much. Fine-tuning shapes often means tweaking as little as one edge at a time. And of course tools like nudge.rb, nudge bits and pieces. That's real handy. Using scale to move vertices like this means some initial 3D movement of geometry first to get a 3D bounding box. [image: kitty.jpg]

An example. http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Ruby/userdefinedaxis.skp

I am not so sure that it is random....I just removed item [0] of a 13 item set. Then, I added that particular edge back to the set...it went back in the orginal index position of [0]!

Thanks for all the information. Umlauts and other accents are more of a problem then I expected. I am going to look into some things and I will report back. It looks like they are supported in Ruby and SketchUp for some things, but then lost for some other things.

SketchUp on Windows uses IE for webdialogs (not FireFox, not Opera, etc.). Sketchup on the Mac only uses Safari for webdialogs. Are you saying that if IE is installed on the Mac, that SketchUp is using IE in preference over Safari? This is new news if this is so. And, a pain in the hiney for webdialog developers, because some of us (err, me!) don't have IE for Mac. I bought a Mac to distance myself away from IE and MS Office. Todd