Where are you getting your height info? I just checked again and found it to be less than 1 foot off on a random topo I pulled out of the drawer. Here's my info. Google Map Location https://maps.google.com/maps?q=212th+St+SW,+Snohomish,+Washington&hl=en&ll=47.807091,-122.309968&spn=0.002183,0.003846&sll=48.02805,-121.819153&sspn=0.098385,0.26144&t=h&gl=us&geocode=FcV42QIdIZ61-A&hnear=212th+St+SW,+Snohomish,+Washington&z=19 [image: RUqu_mapheighttestmap.JPG] Google Map Find Altitude. [image: b59q_mapheighttest.JPG] Here's the professional survey and topo [image: LflH_mapheighttesttopo.JPG] I'd say that's easily within a foot. Let us know how you got your figures.

@michaliszissiou said: Thank you for the link. I was always good on this. BTW, extremely boring. Ancient greek geometry is here, have a look, but what kind of geometry? One that follows the nature of the marble? A fractal geometry then? If you measure parthenon you'll find lot of golden section there. OK, lot have been published. But you'll also find another kind of section, a god knows where did it came from (again, lot of literature here) You may find some more, and more. In the end you may think that these all are simply nonsenses. An artist always search for a way to measure his thoughts, his feels, his ideas, his senses... This is all about art.

oh lord, that last photo was painful. poor guy, needs a flat surface to work on.

Yes, and next year you can track everyone who is using a smartphone on google earth...

Yeah ... I knew that. Hadn't realised so far it was this bad, though. Maybe I ought to try TT's Quad Face Tools.

so addictive!! [image: ScreenShot2013-07-07at185143_zps290c2bab.png]

@jarynzlesa said: I am just wondering who will be first out . We are working on it in the UK, but Scotland might beat the rest of the UK

Looks interesting, reminds me of the old Punch software, just more dynamic.

ok.... I better fill this in I've got CSE Maths English History Chemistry and Physics. right now, it's more what math do I need than what uni... think more from the start. right now, using SU or trueSpace I can design you a building by eye... but without the math (or any further qualifications), can you build it?

Datacad ~75% Mainly for 2D production drawings. SU and LO ~10% SU to Datacad ~15%

@chris fullmer said: What, did you stop by the SU booth? I was there all Thursday but didn't see you. Are you still out here? I'm guessing you've probably headed back to the NE corner of the country. Chris, I was totally there! I sat through a presentation AND talked to John Bacus at length. Sorry I missed you. It would have been fun to meet IRL. @krisidious said: If you're going to be in Denver, make sure to go to Casa Bonita... http://www.casabonitadenver.com/ Bummer, didn't make it there. Will have to plan it for next time.

@pbacot said: It occurs to me that one outcome is that the developers may make "updates" that are unpopular and no one can do anything about it. Users can't hold back using a better version because the only version they'll have access to is the updated one. "updates that are unpopular" - now what sort of a company would do a thing like that!? Also makes me think of possible 'legacy' and 'migration' issues. For example, our company once purchased the assets of a failing business - a range of products that we felt we could modernise and make commercially viable. Most of the CAD files, BOM databases etc. were in ancient formats that our in-house software did not support. But, fortunately, the installation disks for the original software were among the assets we purchased - the starting point for re-formatting the data for an automated migration. If the 'cloud' model becomes the standard for software distribution, such things will no longer be possible - or maybe only provided by "legacy software hosts" who would charge a small fortune for their specialist services. Given the recent revelations about the NSA's 'data snooping' capabilities, one also has to wonder about the safety of the data being transferred. The assurances of the big software companies that they wouldn't collaborate with such snooping are surely disengenuous given their previous track record - e.g. after the way Google rolled over backwards to enable Chinese internet censorship, why should we believe that they wouldn't co-operate equally enthusiastically with any other 'friendly' security agency? And the US laws governing the human right of US citizens do not even apply to the data of foreign citizens who happen to be accessing US servers (no doubt likewise for other jurisdictions). The 'human rights' aspects of this is only one part. There have been many times in history where security agencies have indulged in industrial espionage to appropriate technology - and once everybody's 'work' is floating in the cloud, the door is opened for the exploitation of all kinds of research and development for purposes for which they were not intended.

They don't let us non-registered types in places like that...

@unknownuser said: Where I can find this again? The link seem invalid now. Thanks http://explore.glacierworks.org/#trek/everest-base-camp Trek to Everest Base Camp...happy travel [image: GdW6_everest.jpg] http://explore.glacierworks.org/#trek

I couldn't resist Same technique, this time the new NPR Toon shader by cycles. [image: lFYj_prodeOutLine2LL.jpg]

Wow, amazing work done - hope we leave it just as is for our children's sake...

@box What you posted insults me. It's against my believes, my religion. It also violates the rules of this forum, or any other forum. I'll report it to moderators. Right now.

Yes, good times. Amazingly, it seems that past versions of SU have been archived and are still downloadable. link That'll please someone I know who is still on V6 anyway.

Thanks all, Rich and Alan, I'm back in! Chris