Hello, Woodarc. I know how to do this joint (= I have worked out how to do it) the way that Japanese design house does it. Since I am brand-new to this forum, and don't know how to post photos, best you go to this link where I tell the whole story (for one sample joint): http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=woodbutcher&nav=messages&msg=5596.18&prettyurl=%2Fwoodbutcher%2Fmessages%3Fmsg%3D5596%2E18 It is a lot easier to make than the replies on this thread suggest - and easiest of all if you have a radial arm saw. Love this crazy forum. I will be back. Cheers Mark

@tig said: There are plenty of things to snap the green to. A Circle will align to the surface it is hovering over. If that surface is axial it will take the color of the axis or be black otherwise... OR in the absence if a surface it will align to the nearest current axis otherwise. To get it to lock to the [current] 'red' axis you need to orbit so you are looking somewhat along the [current] 'red' axis. When the circle's cursor turns 'red' you know it's on that axis. To lock it to 'red' hold the shift-key. Click on the hip's edge to locate it, it will be made centered on that line. Change its size and segment-count as desired, before you do anything else... Afterwards you are best to Group it - this will avoid it sticking to other existing geometry unexpectedly, while you are changing it later. I moved the circle down [locked in the current blue-axis] because a round ridge-tile is only a partial circle, and wouldn't be centered on the hip-line... Sorted, all understood now. Thanks for that

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Thx for the Infos

@wo3dan said: @woodarc said: Can I align standard views to North, South etc even if the axis's don't align to them? If so how Besides TIG's method to align the view to a face, you can also align view to axis (green up). If you click on any axis in empty space and select 'Align View' in the context menu, the view will have green pointing up on your screen, blue pointing towards you and red to the right. The current drawing origin is the center of your screen's modeling space. This means that by simply adjusting the drawing axes, you have better controle over different views like top, front, left, right, etc. to see facades in 'heads on' view. Example: if you have a building rotated, not along red/green, then rotate the drawing axes about blue to get red/green along two perpendicular facades. TOP icon may be of no use. But right click an axis and select 'Align View' to get the right Top view, (green pointing up on screen). Thanks for your response. I tried what you said (I think!) This technique seems to give a top or plan view only which is great as I hadn't tackled the plan or top view until now. I have been trying to align vertical faces to show elevations and plans perpendicular or orthographic in Layout. I am working on a building that is square but with a diagonal ridge, the whole building is set at 327 degrees NW. Internal walls are set at two angles to the perimeter some perpendicular and some at 45 degrees. Many thanks for the guidance.