@gaieus said:
Yes, I read you. I didn't know Roans developed electricity networks in bities (and used former columns as posts)?
Keep up, Pichuneke as soon I will be interested in this stuff myself, too, and I'd like to learn from somebody!
But I am asking for help! 
I don't know how to fix those errors when exporting to .ase or .dae format... 
Anyway it will be very fun to kill aliens with my blaster inside your roman basilica! 
Some mistakes appear when trying to export the model with the plugin from http://hardpcmtechnologies.blogspot.com/2009/06/hskp2unr-version-093-aset3dpsk.html
I have tried a different exporter, and the results are even worse... 
I have tried exporting it with Collada, but UDK reads a lot of files, not a single one (the two columns). If I export it as an .obj to blender, and then from blender I export it to Collada (using Blender as a bridge) results are the same as using the .ase exporters. 
Gaieus, if you read me: It's the model of L.VII.C of the roman forum 
@richardsimpo123456 said:
Sorry. This took longer than expected, but here is the video. I hope it is good enough..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWddGGjh16U
And here is the link to the plug-in I use
http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=619593
Thanks! Again!
I will try tomorrow to do what you have done, with some of my models. I did some things right, I have that plugin (there is another different to export to ASE too), but I got lost when trying to put it in the editor. I believe that we are going to have fun with this method...
This also creates some legal questions. As the engine is free if the cost of the project is below 5000 $; Does it mean that you can freely distribute a 3D engine of your building at a cost of 3.000 $? Or even use it for rendering?
All my work is for free, but this aspect may be very interesting for a lot of people, here in the forums.
Perhaps we should have this discussion in this thread, as it is a more general thread, and not your question about delete normals: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=23403#p200768
@richardsimpo123456 said:
Sure, I will help
Thanks!
@richardsimpo123456 said:
Hi, is there anyway I can change or delete the normals Sketchup creates? I ask this because in both Unity and UDK game engines, my meshes look aweful. Yet come out fine in leadwerks. Here are some pics.
The Unity error is only small.
Thanks.
Richard.
I have tried to do what you have done with UDK, but there is a problem. I am a newbie (well, I am a newbie with everything ). Can you tell us how did you export it, although you have problems? I am not able to export the entire model as "one piece" with textures, I get 160 separated pieces... I don't want to importunate you: I am an absolute newbie and I just want to have a walk inside one of my models.
Even if you are busy and don't want to ask me, thanks a lot. I see now that is possible to do that.
A link to my previous post in the "official" thread of Unreal Development Engine: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=23403#p200768
Note: I export with my free version of sketchup, but there is not problem as I use Blender to obtain different (textured or not) formats.
I have managed to export part of a model (there is a limit of 65000 faces), without textures, using a .obj exporter written in ruby. The problem is that if you export the model with textures (using collada .dae, for example), every component created is related to different textures and exported separately, and it can be a real nightmare to join 160 pieces manually. I don't know if there is an alternative way to export everything with textures as a single piece.
I have to learn how to include collisions, is not "authomatic". It's generated separately.
I haven't tested this plugin, but I believe that the script you are looking for is this:
http://hardpcmtechnologies.blogspot.com/2009/06/hskp2unr-version-093-aset3dpsk.html
It exports to Unreal.
@gaieus said:
And I am just realizing that this thread has gone way off-topic. Sorry Pichuneke, I think I'd better split it somewhere and only leave the relevant things (like material images) in place (although as I am thinking of this, they should go to the Components-materials-styles foruum instead)
I am the king of offtopics, in fact I love them What you say is very interesting
And finally... a Kerkythea Render.
Danik, an idea for you, L.VII.C and Saikindi (I didn't know about Saikindi... ). I believe you must talk and agree to locate them in Google Earth, the models are too heavy and won't be uploaded to 3D Warehouse, but if you download them, you only have to copy and paste, and the models will be placed in the right place.
Also, a terrain that joins all the models would be fine.
I really enjoy your work. Thanks
@notareal said:
@pichuneke said:
And yes, it's a nightmare of memory for my computer. Kerkythea doesn't allow to render it; the entire model is too complex
I seen quite complex models in KT and rendered them (models that where impossible to even rotate in SU or display fully). I would say that if you can load the model in SU and export it, you most likely can render it. Try MLT, but for first run keep resolution under 1000x1000.
It works, I will upload some renders later
I have sent the link to this thread to L.VII.C, I hope he can see your materials. Anyway I will tell him about them.
And Gaieus, thanks. That roof with "tegula" is perfect for my roman theatre
I have put all ancient rome models from 3DWarehouse of Palatine Hill and forum area together... and this is the result:
Most of the models are from L.VII.C:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=13768710844291476073&scoring=m
(I have talked with him through email, a nice guy)
There are models from Danik, too http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=01003398139392568103&scoring=m
The roman arcs are the ones you can see in Google Earth.
And yes, it's a nightmare of memory for my computer. Kerkythea doesn't allow to render it; the entire model is too complex 
I have done this just for fun. I supose that this thread won't go any further.
By the way, you have to visit this guy. I am his number one fan.
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=13768710844291476073&scoring=m
He does a model in just one week. I enjoy rendering for fun his models with kerkythea, this is my last one based on his Trajan's Forum.
With my free version of sketchup I can't import the roman houses with textures.
Collada gives me problems with sketchup. I have problems too when importing/exporting to Blender.
@gaieus said:
Pure, whitish ("eggshell") colour of stucco/plaster with mixed stone and brick bumpmap underneath. Just like in my regular corner bar ("bodega")
I believe that you are modeling the new ampliaton for your corner bar... (the words that all tourists learn in spain are fiesta, paella, vino and bodega)
Well, It's really curious for me the way the roman empire style ended in your country. Here, visigoths evolved using a style (columns and arcs) that is believed they took from some regions at the north of spain in later roman period (not remains of it except in tombstones). After it, moorishes copied it:
(Source: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Arco_de_herradura_%28Las_Claras%29.jpg )
@aerilius said:
Also in my region, the barbarians abused the roman remains, mainly as stone quarries. From one villa rustica, there are still 2 out of ~35 columns left - used as grindstone by a blacksmith.
It hapened in all the roman empire. In Spain too. In fact the famous mosque of Córdoba (now is catholic Cathedral) has one of the best collection of roman capitals of spain. In their columns.
Source (with more resolution): http://www.flickr.com/photos/javier1949/3445848872/in/set-72157616634272377/
@gaieus said:
Definitely not. This is a remote, half barbarian, military province on the frontiers, in the 4th century. Not even one piece of such (mainly earlier) "clascic" column has been found here so far.
Ok, it's curious and interesting, for me. I am wondering which textures are you going to use... I supose that the walls were painted.
(YES, I know that texturing roman walls is a nightmare, that's why I ask you that )
I have something to ask you, Gaieus: Weren't Chorintian, Jonic... columns? Those squared columns doesn't fit with my view of a roman basilica...
I mean, something like this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNHR4Q8kpGU (As always, I don't know how to insert a youtube video in this forum)
(I believe that I may have commited a mistake in the question, please correct me if it's wrong, to improve my english).
Today I have wasted some of my time with this tool, for curiosity, and I believe that I am not going to do anything more with it. The limits of this tool, for me, are visible in this model of the Royal Palace of Madrid I have made. You can't achive more accuracy.
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=91e51167b463b3e2d63477c89a315b2e
Edit: You can compare with a serious model uploaded today, too, of the same palace, made with Sketchup 7
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=e9251c360d3ee94d3acca2328265f220
Competition opens... No prize
http://blog.monopolycitystreets.com/
@unknownuser said:
From SketchUp, choose "Share Model" and upload your 3D building to the Google 3D Warehouse (you must have a Google account to sign in).
In the upload window, add the tag "monopolycompetition09" and make sure that you've checked "Allow 3D Warehouse users to contact me about this model" so we can contact you if you win!
Technical Guidelines:
· Buildings can be any size and any shape
· Buildings must not have photo-textures; they must be painted with solid colors
· The file size limit is 2 MB
· The file format should be .SKPKey dates to remember:
Sunday 27 September 2009 midnight EST - Competition closes
Wednesday 30 September 2009 midnight EST - Our jury will select 3 building designs from the top rated designs and notify the winners. We will also need to verify eligibility requirements at this stage
Tuesday 6 October 2009 midnight EST - Winners will be announced
October 2009 - The winners’ buildings become part of a global game of MONOPOLY
