Wow mate, that is some STUNNING render work!!! TOTALLY impressed!

@jql said: Has anyone had any success in usin Autodesks's 123D for Architectural purposes? I'm in need of something that can, with more or less effort, 3D scan buildings: Facades; Interiors; Staircases and complex interior rooms. I tried it a while ago. See http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=169%26amp;t=62602%26amp;hilit=+123d#p573897 Personally, the results aren't good enough yet to use them for my projects. For now it's just for fun and personal research. Exteriors might go ok. There are a few examples on youtube. Interiors could fail if the individual photo's don't have enough unique markers to match them. Rooms with large white walls and a polished concrete floor most likely fail. Reflective surfaces most likely fail I would expect some trouble with staircases if there aren't enough unique markers on them. Complex interior rooms could go either way. Maybe someone else did some more testing and had some better results?! Max

It is nice to have valid competition; it pushes you to do better says G. Versace.. Every single sketchup releases, we all itch to recompose our wishlist to a point we give up wishing. I think these developments will propel Trimble to act faster than all of our wishlists combined would.. Many of us who started who from early stages of SU (free version) couldnt see much difference as far as native tools is concerned now that we are paying every release. SU owes its milestones to its users (and of course to loyal code writers). One of the ways SU could stay in the game is to consider "interoperability" with other 3d apps which is the strength of Autodesk. Why do i need 3rd party or a special plugin to import industry standard 3d formats?

Very cool!

@richard said: @jql said: Well, that could be drawn inside sketchup even faster... And then you could convert that into a 3D model and render in Thea in an IBL background in the same day. Mate, you may have missed the key words "design sketch". I didn't miss them! My design sketches are done on site, on meetings and on paper. I don't know how much time I take to develop them. Then, what you do call design sketches I do not have. I replace that by designing a model as my first plans are also related with space studies, not floor plans alone alone. My space studies quickly evolve to models and my models are quickly rendered. I might still be talking about design sketches but inside Sketchup. They're not a morning's work, but a day's work. From there a quick presentation emerges. A 3D one with LO plans and some renders. The main idea is there but also the main model. As the idea evolves, the model evolves. There's also optimization there's also quick work, but there is not a 2D frame of mind. There's always a 3D take on things and a quick 2D LO output. On some stages, not even the 2D output is needed as we are talking on space changes, nor floor plan, LO changes. At least not in a fundamental way.

@rich o brien said: I find the viewport display for that in designer to reflect the render output in Thea. And because of the difference in how metal appears in SD spec/gloss as compared to Thea it's an uphill battle. For straight up non-metals it's fine though. True! PBR roughness/metalic is the way to go with Thea, however Spec/Gloss might be useful for other engines, that's why I posted.

I knew at least you'd like this one Pilou!

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Yes I will. Thought of doing that but was in a rush...

I'm sure you guys know but, for renaming you have a plugin from renderiza that's called "Rename by Layer". It's very good! Pick all the groups/components, select a name or definition name, set a name and rename them all sequentially. For components you can use the definition name "Component#N". Or you can select Components, Groups or Components and Groups and change all "Name" while numbering or not, prefixed or sufixed... Cool thing is that "Rename by Layer" can also rename by layer... (never used it that way)

Thanks, I'll create some more as soon as I got some time. Maybe a breakdown explaining the process...

Loving the discussion. @renderiza said: This is true but apart form money I think the drive to learn should be the main source of motivation. I would love to share your perspective, it is the way this should function in an ideal world. Unfortunately things aren't ideal and, as any economist will tell you human beings respond to incentives If we want to push the Sketchup envelope then streamlining the system for getting incentives to the people who make new, exciting and useful things is the most efficient way to do it. The iOS app store is a prime example.

I can do that in Sketchup 8, but I only had doubles on 2013. So I'm a victim now! I feel terrible...