@cotty said:

@cotty said:

Not the direct way, but a kind of workaround:

• select edges
• extrude lines in blue direction (TIG extrude tools or Didiers Projections)
• Scale with shift pressed
• move up the scaled edges

Example:

[attachment=0:1yudu5tp]<!-- ia0 -->offset_noncoplanar.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1yudu5tp]

yes this is the offset im talking about. your workarounds are all fine but i want to know whether is possible to project out a face with equal distance ( as in normal coplanar offset)

I tried doing the scale from center by pressing ctrl but this will not give me uniform offset distance
if my object is not circular as your example..

hi guys I want to offset a non coplanar loop but I don't know which tool to use.

If there was a face, I could use Tools on surface. But there is none.

Thomthom's vertex tools could project faces along a direction but is it possible to say project outwards, from the center or say a distance from the edge. please see below.

added detail for little more accuracy

@alvis said:

3D Warehouse

3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

(3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

Thanks alvis for the link to that shape.. Here it is..

Good that the 5 petal flower are component and vertices are in perfect places. Done in minutes.

' love sketchup modeling...

Edd

@alvis said:

3D Warehouse

3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

(3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

just what i need to get started..Thanks so much Alvis...

Just wondering what plugins does this complex kind of things....

hi all, I need model of the attached lamp, Cant find it anywhere. Or if anyone could at least give me a plugin that could build this shape.

Thanks

@rspierenburg said:

It's a little funny how some people seem so against the thought of using Photoshop. Many Photographers pride themselves on minimal use of Photoshop to maintain the realism of their photos, and as you just mentioned, the guys in your office pride themselves on not using Photoshop either.

Rob

The Final look is what's important ! Somebody said, "Clients don't look at the wires- they never count polys" They dont need to know the processs you went through to approve a design. If you consumed 100 hours against something done in 2 hours, but ultimately produces the same result, that doesn't make the difference. The ultimate winner is the one the client is most impressed with.

In fairness to the CG guys in my office. The reason they take photoshopping as " cheating" is that because you may produce beautiful image at one camera or angle, but you may not be able to accurately produce the same effect in another angle, or if somebody else had to work on the same job. If photorealism is that important , we try not to overdo photoshop.

@valerostudio said:

Bertrand Benoit (as far as I am concerned, the best of the best) posted this today. I think it hits on some of the topics of why these renders look so much better.

http://bertrand-benoit.com/blog/2015/01/07/the-photographic-look/

Thanks for the link.... BTW, who to you is the Bertrand Benoit of VFSU? or of SU in general?

Hey guys, Im taking all your comments as good news to me.. Maybe its more of the user issue than anything else. And I sincerely hope you are right...

I see your point on the post production part. Photoshop can do magic beyond imagination but that is not the thing I want to probe.My colleagues (who are max users) pride themselves with "no post" renders like photoshopping is a grave sin.

Maybe you guys are right on these points:
-Most max models are better in quality, has better textures (including diff,ref,bump,displ,opacity maps)
-Most CG artists we see on the net, uses Max for its versatility so they produced these great works
-Most of the "wow" renders are not raw, largely photoshopped.
-Maybe I should study what's under the hood of the vray engine. Maybe in the settings lie the difference.

Sure, I want to hear more form extensive VFSU and vray for max users for additional feedbacks.
Meanwhile I will continue on probing the difference.

@jiminy-billy-bob said:

I've used both VfS and VfMax for quite some time now, and for what I've seen, the render quality is pretty much the same.

Every render on my website (http://thomashauchecorne.com/en) is done either in SU or Max. Can you tell which is which?

If you use both, which one do you prefer for high quality rendering?

I frequently visit evermotion .org., I joined vray world group as well as the " Sketchup texture your work", even the different Sketchup vray communities like NomerAdona, Thailand, Vietnam & Pinoy communities, which are all good.

At one look, I can can tell the difference Which is rendered in vray for SU and Vray for max, and 90% of the time I was right. In the recent competition by Sketchup Texture, I could readily tell which are max and which is SU. There's something "sketchuppy" about SU rendered image.

This thread is started out of my frustration to do a render to level those I see in evermotion site, or just maybe my colleagues' work.

I see the work of Stanislav and I wanted to quit doing 3ds. and ask, will I ever get to do something like this?

If some vray professional will tell me that I cant achieve it. Then I will stop trying at all.

HI there everyone. I ve been a vray for SU user for a long while.

I am however kind of " envious" of the other vray platforms such as max and C4d.
My line of work gives priority to the "wow factor "in creating 3d renders if we are to win jobs and to thrive in the industry.

Vray for SU reached its milestones at 2.0 But I was trying to compare vray for max renders I saw 5 years ago with even the few really good ones I see today. So surprised that, It doesnt even come close.

BTW, I am the only Vray for SU user in our design team. While others admire my work. I am often not content with my results when I see my colleagues work using 3ds max. (My colleagues use Evermotion as its benchmark)

Here'a a few observation from my own work
-The colors are bland (not as saturated as I lke to be).

• Images are not as sharp and crispy as I like to be
  -The emmisive light effect is not realistic especially when I use colors
• I often need to render in high res (up to 3000 ) to achive the clarity they produce in 1800

I thought It might just be me (user problem). But I browsed through competitions after competitions. 3DS MAX Vray stand out in most cases.

I never like to shift to any 3d program. My loyalty is on SU for the ease of use. Now I end up importing to 3ds max for the rendering part. I wish I didnt have to do that.

I'd like to hear your stories as well if you have comparisons to make against vray for SU.

-edd

Alvis, I agree, it gets better and better. You transcended SU's limitations in organic modelling. I wanna be like you when I grow up!

I got it finally working.. It will do wonders for me...For once, I have a feeling Im working in Max environment. Clean mesh... Thank you so so much Thomthom. I look at you and I see possibilities for our beloved SU to conquer the 3d world..May your kind multiply..

BTW, Im still awaiting updates for the non destructive SubD..

SDmitch slection tool is just the thing I need.. The S4U's selection tool is way too good... Couldnt believe I missed them, could have saved me lots of precious time. Thanks Box & Unearthed...

Hi all... Been working on a concept for an Interior design project. This is a a custom chandelier.
made of strings and crystals. Im looking for ways to generate "3d matrix" (Im not sure if that's the correct term for this) from 3d objects.

I tried to do one object and it looks promising. But honestly, Im still wondering how much work is involved in the actual assembly, or the materials to be used, but that's not my concern at the moment.

I just need to show something in 3d.

Now, to my question. Do we have plugins in SU that could do this job?. This really looks okay if I did not do it manually.. took me hours to do and could be much better.

I think some other 3d softwares could do something similar as shown here (even with half tone effect)

Maybe Im just missing it. Is there a freehand selection plugin tool for SU ?. One of my favorite thomthom's vertex tool is this freehand selection , but works only on vertices--not able to select groups or components..I am modeling lots and lots of tiny objects in my scene and i thought this kind of tool will save me a lot of time..

just like you, i struggled a lot.Depending on what youre modeling , but as much as possible, "Keep the quads" or at least the tris but never ngons.Cotty's simple objects and Alvis' tutorials and samples on making upholstered furniture did help me a lot. You'll find it a pleasure once you get the hang of it.. and as Cotty said... Do keep copies of your proxies on the side every stage possible..

Alvis, that latest one is scary challenge. But you did it very well. Im sure in this exercise, there are lots of repetitive actions. Do you have a plugin in mind (non- existing)
that could help you do repetitive things more quickly?

@solo said:

I tweaked a few materials, ran Presto for 18 minutes only GPU (did not use CPU and GPU as I wanted to test Titan on it's own at low priority)

3000x1875

Hi- res , clear, crispy image. At 18m 37 secs. That is impressive. Thanks for trying out.
Now I'd like to consider Titan.. and probably Thea too.

And I wish there's somebody who could tryout vray GPU . At least with these few infos, I can come up with a recommendation to my boss in terms of GPU hardwares

Thanks a lot

@solo said:

Will you send me the model as you have it set up already and i will test just GPU.

i would really be thankful to see. titan is one solution im considering. even for my personal use. Might as well be convinced to learn Thea