DOH! https://help.sketchup.com/en/article/36208 Still, I would welcome suggestions.

The first one you've seen before, just updated. The second one is the reverse view on the same floor using the same time of day light. [image: 6RD8_Lakehousediningfloor.jpg] [image: 1Xzw_Lakehousediningfloor2.jpg]

Thanks Mike and pbacot. This will be a bare bones model. It's made for others to easily modify as they need. It is now complete and available for download in the main gallery page.

Thanks Mike!

Well, this will be it for this project. The file size has gotten too big for my current computer, but I've accomplished what I wanted, which was to finalize and present another of my designs from the last century. When I get a new computer, I'll complete it. It feels so weird saying "last century."

Thanks John!

Thanks Mike and Pbacot. Raylectron makes these small scene renders very easy. All I really have to do its use pre-sets for the materials and minor adjustment of the light and it's done in 5 minutes. This model uses just 3 materials: wood, metal and black. I tell Raylectron to make the metal chrome, the wood shiny and then just use Sketchup's sun and Raylectron's default environment.

I just figured how to do this too! I tried draping a road onto a terrain and tried exporting to google earth.... anyone know why the road didn't show up? I also had drawn a 3d bridge which seemed to make it through the transfer but no roads.

Thanks pbacot.

Thanks HornOxx. Those wheels. Ah those wheels... Took me three months to figure out how to do those wheels. I was still learning how to do copy arrays. I faked the hell out of those wheels. Didn't even dawn on me at the time to use arc degrees. DOH. The outside strut attachments that connect the pads to the outer ring, took me days to figure out. The inside spring bars were pretty straight forward. But same problem with making the circular array. Groups and components and layers? What are those? But I learned a lot from those wheels. Did I mention I only had one drawing to go by? A fuzzy presentation painting at that. Google "Syd Mead VEX". There are only two images. His one painting and my model. Click image for larger picture. [image: 2sqw_vexwheel2bLRG.jpg] [image: HOiD_VEXwheel2cLRG.jpg]

Thanks Paul. Some good things to consider. I appreciate it. The design of the kitchen was pre-made by Kitchenmaid and is a model available from the 3D Warehouse, but without lights and refrigerator. I didn't modify it much except to add the refrigerator, microwave, the fruit bowl, cutting board, coffee cup, dishes, lights and cutting board. All the other counter things were already in place. (wait, that sounds like a lot) The model geometry itself is a mess. I spent some time cleaning it up, but just gave up after I found more and more things wrong with it. Materials especially. This really wasn't a design exercise so much as a render exercise. The track lighting on the cabinets is a good example. It should be glare. That was the effect I was trying to achieve, not as a wanted effect, but to see what the render program would do, yet the render program didn't do it. The lights over the sink are strange too. They should light up the interior of the metal shade, yet they barely do. I think his is why several people have asked about the light sources. I need to look further into that. Material settings are all me. I did not spend more time with the pre-set materials that came with the model. All that said, I really do appreciate your feedback. It's those kind of tips that will help me avoid future mistakes when I start to make my own interiors. This is exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for. (as well as compliments of course ) So again thanks for the critique and let me know if you see any other things that can be improved in my future renders. I'm really trying to move beyond just lighting. I'm trying to achieve an "atmosphere" effect, but I know that just comes with practice.

Thanks Walt. Just goofing around.

Thanks Dave! The monitor actually sits behind another layer of clear glass/plastic/whatever that is the top layer of that entire wall. The number pad itself is old school payphone industrial strength and all the sockets (USB and power) are outdoor industrial strength as well. Cool idea about the restaurant. I really think we should bring back small, enclosed privacy booths of some kind for public places so we can make phone calls without all the ambient noise. Those were a good idea that unfortunately fell out of fashion. This design is a compromise of that idea and meant for indoor public place like lobbies and stations.

3D Warehouse was down because of issues with the Amazon Web Services but should be back after restarting now: https://status.sketchup.com/

I figured it out. I had downloaded the 32bit version and I needed the 64 bit version. Twilight had 2 different download pages. Problem resolved.

Great resource Bryan. Thanks for finding it and spreading the word.

Thanks ken, but that could be a while.